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Penguinfan 09-30-06 10:03 AM

Visa and Mastercard, money order suppliers, wire transfers aren't in the "Business of betting or wagering" either, but it will sure as shit knock them out of the picture.

Talking Poker 09-30-06 11:15 AM

I still can't believe this type of bullshit happens. What does Internet gambling have to do with a Port Authority bill???

Fucking shady motherfuckers.

Kurn 09-30-06 11:29 AM

The vast majority of US credit cards already self-regulate and deny charges to internet gambling sites.

Kurn 09-30-06 11:36 AM

LOL. Sorry, don't mean to be jaded here, but you're just noticing this now because it may impact you. The fact is, this is standard procedure in Congress, has been since probably before my grandparents were born. If you can't get a bill to pass on its own, you hide it in a bigger, unrelated bill hoping it avoids detection.

Mostly, its little pork mprojects that continually add marginally to your taxes, but it hurts you none the less.

I'll make a libertarian out of you yet.:D :cool:

Talking Poker 09-30-06 12:33 PM

I reregistered as an "Independent" the day after Clinton was impeached. When I saw the results of that vote, which were pretty much every single Democrat (save maybe 5) saying he didn't do anything wrong and every single republican (again, minus 5 or so) saying he was Satan himself, it just sickened me. If only people could think for themselves and not just vote along party lines... It's disgusting.

And yes, I know this has happened for years and years, but the fact that everyone knew this douchebag was trying to pull this crap and then they allowed him to do it anyway just sickens me. Nice system we have here, really.

Robbr25 09-30-06 01:28 PM

Any chance Bush will line item veto ?
Probably not, but I don't know where he stands on the "issue"
BTW I am also an Independant, nothing in the Constitution sets up political parties (we can start a fun political thread on that one, lol)

cdreef 09-30-06 01:54 PM

This morning, according to Reuters as 12:54 am
 
Looks like it passed and is headed to G.W.'s desk:

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Maybe he'll wait til spring to sign, but I doubt it since he's been getting such poor grades on homeland security- he'll want to get this port authority portion into action- impress the voters before November.

He can still line-item veto can't he? Is this wishfull thinking? Any chance Barb has an account at Party....?

Reel Deal 09-30-06 02:14 PM

Umm, how? Plus, like Kurn said, most of those methods have long since been out of the picture.

MAYHEM45 09-30-06 02:47 PM

Im gonna kill myself. Peace out.

jillaj 09-30-06 03:24 PM

Not good at all. So how long till we should get money off of netteller or other funding sites?

edit: just read rd's post. If they can't touch firepay or netteller then what does this bill really accomplish?

Tony Cheval 09-30-06 04:07 PM

What bills like this always accomplish. That is, they make the people who can't be bothered to read beyond the newspaper blurbs think Your Government(tm) cares about Issue X.

Talking Poker 09-30-06 04:50 PM

Not only that, but I can't tell you how many of my non-poker friends have heard enough about this to say, "So, I hear online poker is illegal now."

There is so much more to it than that, that I don't even know where to start trying to explain things to them.

And I know Kurn will insist the sky isn't falling - and to the point of getting all your money offline, etc, it certainly is not - but this was a pretty big blow to online poker.

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Talking Poker 09-30-06 05:00 PM

No joke, but if this happens (see quote below), I seriously may think about moving out of the country. Damn Canada being so cold! Guess I'm gonna have to find an island somewhere. Hmmmm... I've heard good things about Costa Rica, Panama, etc.

Then again, he can't be worse than Dubya, can he?

PShabi 09-30-06 05:09 PM

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Robbie Robb 09-30-06 05:12 PM

Isn't that what people said about the first George Bush????

Tony Cheval 09-30-06 05:20 PM

Oh I agree, it certainly is a blow to online poker. And that's part of the point really, why go to all the trouble and expense of actual criminalization when you can reduce the 'problem' just by saying 'Boo'?

Boobie Lover 09-30-06 07:22 PM

Corrected

Talking Poker 09-30-06 09:28 PM


Kurn 10-01-06 12:58 AM

Good article. The DOJ will get strained with the litigation, not to mention that the WTO will call the US on the carpet for something it's already said is a violation of the treaty.


And I know Kurn will insist the sky isn't falling

Not falling. Darker than yesterday, sure, but the war isn't over by a long shot.

Kurn 10-01-06 01:02 AM

Uh, I think he has to sign it before the next Congress convenes or its dead.

Reel Deal 10-01-06 07:40 AM

Maybe he'll forget.


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