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Zybomb 07-19-05 10:47 AM

this isnt omaha boy.....

Talking Poker 07-19-05 12:00 PM

It's going to be single elimination. For simplicity sake, I think we should go with one round matches, at least in the earlier rounds... but if you guys would rather do best of 3, we can do that too... I just figure it going to be enough trouble getting people to coordinate their schedules for one match, let alone 2 or 3... Then again, they might not take that long. I'm ok with doing this either way. What do you all think?

Aequitas58 07-19-05 12:07 PM

I vote for 2/3 just because it reduces the luck factor.

BlibbityBlabbity 07-19-05 12:14 PM

I like the best of three as well. We do have all month to get this done. Most would play all three at once, I would think instead of trying to organize 2-3 seperate times.

Talking Poker 07-19-05 12:25 PM

I agree with you guys. Unless anyone strongly objects and thinks a single match is the way to go, we'll do best of 3...

I'm still waiting to hear back from the poker sites. The clock is ticking.

bdawg31 07-19-05 12:58 PM

always lurking
 
I have spent a lot of time lurking - not much posting. I have a few non-sense posts, but nothing substantial. I do find myself coming back day after day - not just for the poker advice - but for the DRAMA that always pops up in this strings.

drewjax 07-19-05 03:29 PM

I like it all so far. 2 out of 3 is probably best.
TP and Aeq. both had good ideas to spice it up. Calcuttas are great sometimes, especially with golf tournaments! Bracketology is the thing now though, I'd probably lean that way. Easier too.

Aequitas58 07-19-05 03:54 PM

Put your thoughts in the "additional idea" thread. We're working out the extras there.

nflchad 07-19-05 10:28 PM

I'd like to play if we need a few more people to fill out the bracket.

Talking Poker 07-19-05 10:40 PM

Everyone who wants to will get to play... some people might have to play an extra round or some might get byes.... We'll see how it shakes out.

Maybe Blibbity will make us a new list soon, so we can see where we stand with entries :)

BlibbityBlabbity 07-19-05 10:50 PM

BlibbityBlabbity
Pshabi
Aequitas58
GeoffM
Zybomb
Quint
Windbreaker
MAYHEM45

Talking Poker
yellowcab
mister_frank
lightfungus
greenbuckets
robthedlphin
JDMcNugent7
nutbag

BrianSwa
The_Gunt
Gordogg
drewjax
omahilo
ChipFish
2Tone
rchamberlin

MathBabe
PokerNovice
nflchad

Still 5 more to 32...

junYUN 07-20-05 02:17 AM

im in

junYUN 07-20-05 02:23 AM

and id much rather do single matches.. i think it'll be tough to coordinate.. let alone play 2 of 3... it's more "exciting" with single matches.

BrianSwa 07-20-05 09:31 AM

hmmm
 
I say 2/3 but have to be played all at the same time.

Gordogg 07-20-05 08:28 PM

I prefer single elimination, just like the NCAA basketball tourney.

Talking Poker 07-20-05 08:33 PM

It's going to be single elimination. The only question is if each heads up match will be one tourney or a best of 3.

I like the best of 3 idea, myself, but again, for simplicity sake this first time around, I think we should go with just one match with the winner advancing.

Zybomb 07-20-05 11:40 PM

Im in favor for best of three. I dont think time will be an issue, because all games will be played 1 after another, so worrying about two different times to play is avoided.

Talking Poker 07-21-05 12:34 AM

Here's what I'm thinking... I'll take input, of course, but I think this is a pretty good idea:

(Assuming 32 players)
The first two rounds (32-->16-->8) will be single matches. This is when we'll have the most people playing and the toughest time coordinating schedules and such. The third round (8 players, 4 matches) will be best of 3. The semifinals (4 players, 2 matches) will be a best of 5 series... and then the grand finale, the championship, will be a best of 7 series.

What do you think? Originally I was going to say 2/3 for the final 4 and 3/5 for the finals, but I think this is even better. By the time we get that far, hopefully the people left will be pretty serious about it and won't mind making time to play. And by doing it like this, the winner will really deserve to be there, having won 11 Heads up Tourneys!

I'd also like to have prizes for at least the final 2 players, but more likely the final 4. I'm hoping out TBD poker site will kick in a little bit of cash for us. Talks are in progress now.

This is going to be very cool!

Aequitas58 07-21-05 12:35 AM

Yea I agree.

I can see how TP is trying to avoid complications, but the "best of three" matches should take place one-after-another. Since we're only dealing w/ T1500 (possibly less) and the blinds increase quickly, I don't think it'll be too much of a time constraint.

I like how everyone else is giving input - we have 20+ people signed up. C'mon guys...

Gordogg 07-21-05 02:20 AM

Wrong wording. I meant one game played winner goes on, not best of three. It's not a huge deal to me though, I'd enjoy this tournament regardless. My freetime is abundant now as well, so no prob.

I really like TP's idea of increasing the number of games played between the opponents the deeper it gets in the tourney. We're not all TP, Kurn, ChumpFish, etc... Give an underdog a chance to score an upset in the first round or two. IMO I think it would add excitement to the tourney.

BlibbityBlabbity 07-21-05 08:23 AM

Round one (32-16) - best of 3 (but a single match here would be "ok")
Round two (16-8) - best of 3
Round three (8-4) - best of 3
Round four (4-2) - best of 5
Final (2-1) - best of 5

This is what I "vote" for....I like the increasing of matches but personally, I think best of 7 is a little overkill. I think best of three determines the better player "pretty well" and best of 5 pretty much seals it.

BTW....

BlibbityBlabbity
Pshabi
Aequitas58
GeoffM
Zybomb
Quint
Windbreaker
MAYHEM45

Talking Poker
yellowcab
mister_frank
lightfungus
greenbuckets
robthedlphin
JDMcNugent7
nutbag

BrianSwa
The_Gunt
Gordogg
drewjax
omahilo
ChipFish
2Tone
rchamberlin

MathBabe
PokerNovice
nflchad
junYUN

Still 4 more to 32...

BlibbityBlabbity 07-21-05 08:31 AM

Also, regarding how the matches will be played (if there are more than one per round).....

I would suggest that the minimum to win (2 for best of three, 3 for best of five,etc, etc) be played in one sitting, then if there needs to be a tiebreaker(s) there is the option of scheduling that for another time.

Still need to know how these will be set up. Are they just going to all be set up and the two players sign in whenever they want (password protected), or will you have to have it each match set up by support before you can play? Think this still needs to be given some thought once the site is chosen (or as part of the selection process).....

Talking Poker 07-21-05 03:44 PM

This is the part that is still in the works. I'm hoping people will be able to set up their own matches, and neither support nor I will need to take part in it at all.

BlibbityBlabbity 07-21-05 04:07 PM

Agreed...

BTW, one thing to confirm if PokerHost is still in the running is that this prize pool will be exempt from their "winnings prior to deposit" rules. Typically, you have to deposit and then unlock any money won prior to your deposit (freerolls, or any other promotional money). Their current rules only count $1/$2 and higher games toward unlocking bonuses/promo money. This might suck for some people if they win and don't want to play those limits to try to get their winnings.

From what I understand, if you deposit THEN win money all is ok and it is yours to do what you want with. So, it might be better for people to make $30 deposits in case they win???

Just an FYI in the dcision-making process.....

MAYHEM45 07-24-05 04:11 AM

Oh yeah, just to let you know, Ive been reading this forum for about 3 months, just never anything good to contribute. Im mainly an SNG player, so I may have to start posting some of my strategies and problem hands and DISCUSS it up with you guys. I love all the personalities on here, and I think im ready to join you guys.

Thanks Pshabi for the welcome!

Talking Poker 07-24-05 12:45 PM

Well, it's about time! Let me officially rewelcome you to the forum...

We still have a few spots open for this. Anyone? Anyone? Surely all the regulars have had a chance to sign up by now, so if anyone has any friends they'd like to tell about this, by all means, feel free.

robthedlphin 07-24-05 02:38 PM

I think there should be a seperate thread under "railbird me" for all of these matches. People could post their agreed-upon scheduled times, etc.

Also, I think TP's matches per elimination will do just fine. And heck with the money--I just want one of those hats.

BrianSwa 07-24-05 08:05 PM

nope
 
take me off list im on a break.

kkirk1329 07-24-05 08:46 PM

ill play

BlibbityBlabbity 07-24-05 08:58 PM

BlibbityBlabbity
Pshabi
Aequitas58
GeoffM
Zybomb
Quint
Windbreaker
MAYHEM45

Talking Poker
yellowcab
mister_frank
lightfungus
greenbuckets
robthedlphin
JDMcNugent7
nutbag

The_Gunt
Gordogg
drewjax
omahilo
ChipFish
2Tone
rchamberlin
MathBabe

PokerNovice
nflchad
junYUN
kkirk1329

Still 4 more to 32...

Talking Poker 07-24-05 10:40 PM

I was wondering when something weird like this would happen.

You do realize this is free, right Brian? If you are SURE you won't be playing poker the first week in August, I guess it's better for you to back out now than forfeit to whomever you are matched up with then. But otherwise, I just don't get it...

Always with the drama...

lightfungus 07-27-05 11:08 AM

So TP, how are we doing on this? WHats the site if we have one yet.

Talking Poker 07-27-05 01:03 PM

Sadly, still TBD. We may start a couple of days late, but I'm going to do my best to get us underway on 8/1. We could still use a few more players...

ahuth3r 07-27-05 02:08 PM

I'm in...should be a good time.

BlibbityBlabbity 07-27-05 02:11 PM

I got us one more.....

BlibbityBlabbity
Pshabi
Aequitas58
GeoffM
Zybomb
Quint
Windbreaker
MAYHEM45

Talking Poker
yellowcab
mister_frank
lightfungus
greenbuckets
robthedlphin
JDMcNugent7
nutbag

The_Gunt
Gordogg
drewjax
omahilo
ChipFish
2Tone
rchamberlin
MathBabe

PokerNovice
nflchad
junYUN
kkirk1329
ahuth3r

Only 3 more to 32...

Zybomb 07-27-05 02:55 PM

brian get your ass back on this list ITS FREE -- and you and your first round opponent work around both of your schedules in order to find a good date and time to play

BrianSwa 07-27-05 02:59 PM

hey
 

read my reason in the other section and you will see why I can't. I wouldnt want to have to give someone a window to play me, wouldnt be fair to him or anyone else in this torney.

Talking Poker 07-27-05 04:39 PM

Well, if we don't have enough participants, a lot of guys with a lot of posts (like me) are going to get "byes." Personally, I think being unfair to one guy (the guy you *might* forfeit to) would be better than being unfair to a whole bunch of people (the guys with lower post counts who don't get the byes).

But to each their own.

BrianSwa 07-27-05 04:41 PM

ok
 

ok I will play but will have to give me advance ahead of time of the game and I might have to reschedule at the last second. I really think you should look into bugsys club it is really easy to get into free heads up games. Wouldnt want to give you a bye TP, need to earn you're way to top there buddie.

BlibbityBlabbity 07-27-05 04:51 PM

BlibbityBlabbity
Pshabi
Aequitas58
GeoffM
Zybomb
Quint
Windbreaker
MAYHEM45

Talking Poker
yellowcab
mister_frank
lightfungus
greenbuckets
robthedlphin
JDMcNugent7
nutbag

The_Gunt
Gordogg
drewjax
omahilo
ChipFish
2Tone
rchamberlin
MathBabe

PokerNovice
nflchad
junYUN
kkirk1329
ahuth3r
BrianSwa

2 more.....I see all kinds of familiar names logging in to the site, come on and join....it IS free...

Talking Poker 07-27-05 04:52 PM

Welcome back. If we get to 33+ people, you'll be the first to get cut, ok?

BTW... I know you've played at Jet Set, Poker Host, and Absolute. Which of those would you recommend? Which will allow you to set up Play Money Heads Up tourneys without special privleges?

BrianSwa 07-27-05 04:56 PM

K
 

I wouldnt suggest pokerhost just because there customer support seems terrible. The other forum I'am part of is having their HU torney at jetset, their customer support is amazing so it might be the easiest to set up but dont think you can play free without getting with customer suport.

Honestly Bugsys Club is the best bet, you can set up games easy. There are 3-4 heads up games open all the time. Should be easy to get 2 people into a game very easy.

BlibbityBlabbity 07-27-05 04:58 PM

I don't think any of them let individual players set up [private] matches....

PokerHost has play money ones and the traffic is low enough where it is not to hard to get in one with someone else (IM helps)

Absolute....do they even have heads up tournament matches?

JetSet....Brian is the resident JetSet expert....

If we are doing it like that Bugsy's (PokerPages) has a much better structure than any of these (10,000 chips to start, slow blinds, etc). If you can get some site to put up a prize, or to let us set up the matches to be password protected or something, then that would be cool though.

BrianSwa 07-27-05 05:02 PM

yep
 


Jetset you can do this but not sure if you can set up free ones. The other forum im in is doing $2.75 HU matches. Im sure you can talk to support and set something up but like BB just said I think Bugsys is our best bet.

BlibbityBlabbity 07-27-05 05:32 PM

If you have to pay for each match the fees would be rediculous for everyone.

BrianSwa 07-27-05 05:42 PM

well
 

well they have a prize pool of $5 each from all players. I dont suggest this because alot of people wouldnt play because they are broke. I like the free idea, I vote bugsys. The fees arnt bad though at jetset.

Talking Poker 07-27-05 07:10 PM

Wherever we play, it's going to be free. I talked about this with people directly in Vegas and they were all very supportive and interested. Now that I'm home though and communicating with the sites via email, things are progressing a lot more slowly.

Poker Host was super interested in Vegas. They haven't even approved my affiliate application yet though (it's been a long time too), so they are about to be crossed off the list.

JetSet seemed interested, but talks have kinda stalled. Absolute has a very friendly affiliate department and they put me in touch with their tourney guy, but again, they are being slow to respond.

If nothng works out, I guess we can just do it at Bugsy's, but I was really hoping for a little special treatment. It would be good for us (a little extraprize money) and good for the poker site (loads of new potential player). We'll see...

2Tone 07-27-05 07:28 PM

What gives?
 

This surprises me, and seems remarkably short-sighted on the part of the smaller poker sites. Combine all of our play, and I’m sure we collectively generate a lot of rake. Why wouldn’t a site be bending over backwards to market to a core group of serious online players? That’s got have a better ROI than buying an add in Bluff Magazine, or a lot of the other marketing efforts these guys are doing.

Talking Poker 07-27-05 08:03 PM

You would think, wouldn't you?

Anyhoo, I'm officially making the sign-up deadline 11:59PM ET on July 30th (this post has been around plenty long enough), so those of you who are considering it and still haven't signed up, now is the time. Again, this is a free month long tournament and all are welcome.

On he 31st, I'll figure out all the details, randomly draw up the brackets and post everything. HOPEFULLY the site we will be playing on will be finalized by then too...

Talking Poker 07-27-05 11:17 PM

JetSet is out.


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