i did explain about that. Got called with work out of the country for some training, and took a week holiday on the way back. Gt back, and hadnt paid the internet bill, os had to wait to be reconnected.

If you still want me to play, ill play happily, as i wont be going anywhere. And by the time this starts, ill be sorted.

StinkTooth!!!!

We are set to go fellas, and the league is capped at 14. Looking forward to establishing myself as not last like last year. Man I got fucked by Daunte and Jamal...maybe I should draft better this time around. See you in my tailwinds bitches!

So what are the chances I can get you to make semi-dramatic scoring changes to the league set up?

Make suggestions, we'll have a look, and see. Lets say, Fungus as commission and TP and I are the competition committee.

Ok, suggestions:

4 teams make the playoffs instead of 6 and we lose Week 17 (which is always a crapshoot in the NFL).

Change the roster positions from:
QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/T, W/R, K, DEF, D, DB, DL, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
to:
QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

Do we really want to deal with all that defensive crap? Yuck.

As for scoring, here is the current list - I'll put my suggestions next to each number:
Completions (1) 0
Incomplete Passes (-1) 0
Passing Yards (30 yards per point) 50pp
Passing Touchdowns (12) 5
Interceptions (-4) -2
Rushing Yards (10 yards per point) 20pp
Rushing Touchdowns (12) 6
Reception Yards (10 yards per point) 20pp
Reception Touchdowns (12) 6
Return Yards (25 yards per point) 50pp
Return Touchdowns (12) 6
2-Point Conversions (6) 2
Fumbles Lost (-5) -2
Offensive Fumble Return TD (12) 6
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3) 3
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3) 3
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3) 3
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4) 4
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5) 5
Point After Attempt Made (1) 1
Sack (2) 1
Interception (4) 2
Fumble Recovery (3) 2
Touchdown (12) 6
Safety (4) 2
Block Kick (3) 2
Points Allowed 0 points (20) 10
Points Allowed 1-6 points (14) 4
Points Allowed 7-13 points (8) 2
Points Allowed 14-20 points (4) 0
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0) 0
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-4) -2
Points Allowed 35+ points (-8) -4
Tackle Solo (1) 0
Sack (2) (already listed above)
Interception (4) (already listed above)
Fumble Force (3) 0
Fumble Recovery (3) (already listed above)
Touchdown (12) (already listed above)
Safety (4) (already listed above)
Pass Defended (1) 0
Block Kick (3) (already listed above)

Basically, I'm suggesting lowering the scoring a LOT, and especially the defensive stuff. I hate when some random defensive lineman scores more points than a stud RB based on pure luck. The RB got drafted in the first roudn and the lineman was a throw in later on... it's a crapshoot. I'm ok having defenses in the league, but let's lose the individual player part and cut down on the team scoring some too.

Also, what's this about 12 points per TD? Bah. That's just stupid, IMO. So I fixed all the numbers top to bottom, making them more in line with the actual NFL.

None of these are deal breakers for me, but I think they are a big improvement, and I ESPECIALLY want to get rid of those stupid positions. If you guys want to add ONE Flex position, I'm cool with that (RB/WR/TE, I guess), but I see no need for it. Let's just play the standard positions.

Thoughts?

I'll look at the scoring system tonight, but I do like the idea of dropping week 17. Is there some sort of schedule editor? I think if we did a 1 time thru round robin (13 weeks) and each guy gets 1 bye week, that would be the best way to balance out the schedule.

Bye weeks suck. Play someone twice. No biggie.

So whens the draft?and who do I owe?

same question, as i appear to still be in

Fungus, have a look at TPs scoring system and see if you can tweak, looks good to me.

Guys, login to the pool and the first screen will show you. Oh, and eej, check the baseball pool, I offered a trade.

Agreed. My scoring system is good. Fungusboy? You like?

The draft is on 9/6 - there is a countdown clock on the FIRST LINE of the site. You can't miss it.

Here's the link for the league again, for those too lazy to go back a couple of pages:

Well? Any objections to making the suggested changes?

I agree with the changes wholeheartedly.:thumbsup:

Sorry I haven't responded sooner as I have been busy with school, but I will bow down and change everything...well I did. So here goes a year without DL/DB, so hopefully I will survive.

Woohooo! Thanks.

Now I'm psyched to dominate.

Awww

All full

You want to play? We could kick eejit out and give you his spot, since he doesn't seem to be an active member of this community any more anyway. I mean, he hasn't even ogged on in 5 days, so what reason do we have to believe he'll be at the draft, let alone take care of his team. I'd much rather have an active non-piece-of-crap member.

Anyone object? If not, I say fungus, do your thang.

BTW... I think adding another Bench spot or two would be a good idea. Right now, we have 10 starting positions and 6 Bench positions. I think having about 8 Bench positions would be a good idea to help cover for bye weeks, injuries, etc.

Welllll, since GT is my boy I may just do that...and I will add 2 more spots on the bench.

Fungus, make sure we have an even # of players. That way, last pick doesn't miss out on the snaking back to the 1st pick overall.

We've got 14, which is fine, and we'll still have 14 after we swap the MIA eedork for GTDawg.

Draft Picks
 

So who's on everyones wish list? If I get first pick, i'm taking Larry Johnson. I see Ladanian, Larry, and Shaun as first three picks. Anyone gambling on Bush in the first round?

Bush is likely to go around round 4 or 5 after all the established top backs, receivers, and quarterbacks have gone IMO.

These are the no brainer Top 3, IMO.

Reggie won't go for a long while. He's not even starting yet (full time), is he?

No he's gonna share the load with deuce. But deuce got injured last year, he was my first fuckin pick last year, and who's to say he won't get injured and bush takes over. Kinda like when i traded Larry Johnson to you last year TP cuz he wasn't starting t hen priest got injured and that was that. Bush is an amazing talent. If he was starting i'd gamble on him late in the first round.

I just spent the last hour (or two?) doing some research for my REAL FFL auction that is on Sunday. I've been in this particular league for years and it's pretty serious (it's not about the money - it's about the pride). I've got a little spreadsheet with my position rankings, all the carryed over players marked, and of course the budget for my team (Yes, I can and will be spending $43 of my $100 on ONE RB!). This prep work may sound like a bit much, but that is NOTHING copared to some of the other guys in the league. A couple of them wrote big Access databases to handle everything... one of them is good enough that he was considering selling it. And I honestly think he could. It's basically Poker Tracker for Fantasy Football.

Anyway, I digress................

But yeah, I'm getting psyched for football season and am looking forward to stoming on you bitches in the process.

BTW - the only player I am carrying over from last year to this year is Eli Manning. He was $1 last season (I got him at the auction), meaning I can carry him for $6 this year. We have $100 to filed a team of:

QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, RB/WR/TE, K... plus backups, of course.

High end QBs go for $20+ with Manning maybe going for close to $30. The Top few RB go for around $40. Top WRs go for in the low $20s, usually, and the top TEs are in the mid to high teens. Ks are $3 max.

Given that, thoughts on my holding Eli for $6? I figure he's cheap enough for me to lock him up now, and focus on spending big money on a couple of other studs instead. I'm expecting him to be better this year than he was last year.

Eli would be a steal at even 11 IMO, so you'll probably be holding on to him for at least 2 years.

In terms of TE, I'd imagine that Gates would cost you WR money? If not, save the money on a high end receiver and just go after Gates at around $15. With the rookie QB and all, I'd imagine Gates will see a lot of short dump passes. He is the equivalent of Terrell Owens IMO.

And for Bush, if you can grab him in the $25 area, he would be well worth it. Since it is a keeper league, you might want to buy him low and wait a year to get bargain-basement action on him.

How are you guys not gonna take Reggie Bush first? Dude won the heisman last year. I mean, seriously. That's cold.

*eyes LT at second pick*
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I just realized the Braves are coming in town that night as I have to be at work 9/6 at 7pm...so I probably won't be done until after 10 at least.

I'll go ahead and up my rankings, but I'm gonna have a friend or two watching things for me.

If I wanted Eli for 2 years, I'd have to sign him now (for 2 years at $11 per year). Once you give a guy a contract, that's it. You can't extend it. This league really is awesome.As for Gates, he's in my game plan. If I can get him for $14 or $15, I will. Otherwise, I'm going to get Shockey (nice combo with Eli) or Gonzo. I plan to spend more money on one of those three guys than BOTH of my WRs combined. I've also budgeted $65 for TWO RBs... I'd really like to get LT or Alexander, and then a nice low $20s player... If I can get Bush for that, and I should be able to, I might.

You might want to keep your eye on a guy like Kevan Barlow and pay a little more for Alexander or LT.

Any idea how much Stephen Jackson is. If he is near what Bush is I would snag him i a second. Jackson is gonna be the biggest breakout of the year.

He was carried over by someone else.

And Barlow isn't even starting, right?

Westbrook is the oher guy I have my eye on as my #2 RB...

Barlow will be starting for the Jets!

And Westbrook is already hobbling.

Just so everyone knows, eejit has been kicked and GTDawg should be taking his place as soon as he signs up.

Can I send someone the $10 before I lose it.

I am sure whoever is holding the money will let you. Hell you can send it to me and I will pay 20 when they collect if are afraid you will lose the money that quickly.

Since I'm in the league, if we are doing the $10 thing (I didn't even know we were for sure), go ahead and send it to TalkingPoker on Stars.

How are we gonna do payouts? 60/30/10% for 1st through 3rd after the playoffs? Something like that?

Everyone who is in, go ahead and transfer now.

Is there any spots left open in this league? If so i might join in and do the $10 wager.

How do we determine 3rd vs. 4th Einstein :D .

I'll send you $10 when I put money in Stars. Until then, it doesn't really matter, I'm takin' 'er down anyway.

Uh.... they would PLAY EACH OTHER. Winner gets third. Loser gets 4th.

I know that may sound CRAZY...

One week and (basically) one hour away until draft time.

Who's already in for the $10 side bet?

EDIT: I agree w/ TP's point changes except for the QB point / pass yards. I prefer 1pt. / 30 yds or even 1pt. / 20 yds. Whoever is running this thing... if you make point changes, please post them before the draft date.

Yeah, we remember how ridiculous the league was set up last year, where sucko guys like Favre were still scoring more than 2 RBs per week, despite throwing 3 or 4 picks per game.

At 1 point per 50, a 300 year game = 6 points. That's similar to a 100 yard game for RBs/WRs, which at 1 point per 20 = 5 points. In other words, it's balanced.

When a few RBs are running for 300 yards per week, I'l agree we should score them equally with QBs, but until then, this is fair.

I This the final set of settings for the league, or are more being made?

Also, are we actually doing the $10 pool? If so I will send money to TP on Tuesday (assuming my dentist doesn't give me any bad news...)

QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/R, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

Stat Categories:
Passing Yards (50 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-2)
Rushing Yards (20 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Reception Yards (20 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Yards (50 yards per point)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Points Allowed 0 points (10)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (4)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (2)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (0)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-2)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-4)

Fractional Points: No
Negative Points: Yes

I vote to get rid of the W/R position. Anyone else?

In such a big league, I don't see removing W/R as a problem and I kinda like the idea. If anyone else agrees, I will be happy to axe it.

On a side note, I just signed up for intraural flag football at 9:15 on wednesday, and thus will be missing the draft....unless you guys don't mind me bumping it to 10:30. If this is a horrible idea let me know. I just did a 14 person draft with about the same amount of rounds and it took like an hour and 30 minutes so it wasn't too bad. Lemme know, thanks.

I can do 10:30, but you better make sure everyone else can too.

And I'm more than willing to lose the W/R position... I thought you guys liked that stuff. I'm a purist.

What is this position, a wide reciever or running back slot?

Yes.