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Talking Poker 11-20-06 03:30 AM

Funny... cause I think I'm going to have to start CBing a lot less - at least against the "regulars." I hate to do that though, since it worked (past tense) so very, very well for me. But for the guy who check raise me a lot, I may have to check behind more often. It really pains me to not CB though.

Lik in this hand, if I check the flop and the turn bricks, you're going to lead at the turn. So then what? Fold? Bluff raise?

JDMcNugent7 11-20-06 02:02 PM

TP if I were you I would start playing 2/4 and rebuild and get your confidence back.
I cbet alot just like you, but I do change my sizes up alot, (1/2 - full pot) with 2/3 being the norm.
I think you could def. vary your play more, seems like its a little too mechanical right now, and you def. can check behind a few flops, you don't have to try to win every hand.
I know you know most of this but just keep it in mind, and vary your play more, also playing 2/4 for awhile would prob be a good idea.

Talking Poker 11-20-06 04:13 PM

Good advice, and much appreciated.

About my play being mechanical, to an extent you are right... and I think that's because it had worked so well for so many hands, so I figured why change it? Just play through the variance, ya know? But variance doesn't account for 100% of my struggles recently, so a change would probably be a good idea. Moving down to 2/4 is going to feel weird, I'm sure... but I think you're right - it's the best move for me for a while. Plus, it will give me new material for my next video.

Talking Poker 11-21-06 03:16 AM

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So I decided to play some 2/4 NL tonight. At first, it felt weird with such small bet amounts compared to what I've gotten used to. I was even thinking "Man, it's going to take me forever to get unstuck what I'm stuck this month playing at these limits," but that is a REALLY stupid way to think about things. You can NOT think like that. My move down to 2/4 is a necessary one for me right now.

Anyway, the first thing I noticed is how much different the PT numbers for my opponents were... There were a LOT less really good players and a LOT more really bad ones. It seemed like there were 4 times as many "good" tables than I'm used to seeing.

I got off to a good start and was even getting "lucky" - By lucky, I mean that when I got all it in preflop with AA vs. KK, my AA somehow managed to win. Complete craziness, I tell you...

I got up about 1300 at my peak, and was really feeling my confidence come back (it's amazing what one good session can do for you after a bad losing streak), and then the usual bullshit started kicking in. The kicker was when I got it all in on the flop with top two vs what I was 100% sure was an overpair, and sure enough, the board paired the third flop card and *poof* $800 pot gone.

I'm just finishing up now... really having trouble leaving this one table because this dude wants to give me his stack SO BADLY... Anyway, looks like my final tally has me up a litte more then $100 for the night. Seems silly, but it sure beats the hell out of losing 2 or 3 or 4 thousand, like I have been recently.

Here is my fun graph for the night (I'd color on it , but I'm just not that talented). That sharp drop in the middle was the top two hand I mentioned. If my hand held up there, that line would be going UP instead of down and TWICE as far. I would have finished up $1000 for the night. Oh well.

sjay2k 11-21-06 08:38 PM

I won't always lead, but, for you, a bluff-raise on the turn is very effective because people often see it as a slow played set. fold the turn sometimes too, imo.

disclaimer: i've probably only played 25k hands of nl cash, take this with a grain of salt.

Boobie Lover 11-23-06 04:20 AM

I :h: Maniacs


FullTiltPoker Game #1291252560: Table Shire (6 max) - $3/$6 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:00:09 ET - 2006/11/23
Seat 1: Bobster616 ($821.80)
Seat 2: PercentileDoom ($2,730.65)
Seat 3: YanZeng ($730.45)
Seat 4: onegambler ($487.45)
Seat 5: DOOM SWITCH ($615)
Seat 6: MyHipsDontLie ($591)
Bobster616 posts the small blind of $3
PercentileDoom posts the big blind of $6
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PercentileDoom [Qh Ad]
YanZeng folds
onegambler folds
DOOM SWITCH folds
MyHipsDontLie folds
Bobster616 raises to $18
PercentileDoom raises to $60
Bobster616 calls $42
*** FLOP *** [Qs Td 4d]
YanZeng stands up
Bobster616 bets $120
PercentileDoom calls $120
*** TURN *** [Qs Td 4d] [Jh]
Bobster616 bets $360
PercentileDoom calls $360
*** RIVER *** [Qs Td 4d Jh] [9h]
Tredstone adds $600
Bobster616 bets $281.80, and is all in
PercentileDoom calls $281.80
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Bobster616 shows [3s 2s] (Queen Jack high)
PercentileDoom shows [Qh Ad] (a pair of Queens)
PercentileDoom wins the pot ($1,640.60) with a pair of Queens
Bobster616 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1,643.60 | Rake $3
Board: [Qs Td 4d Jh 9h]
Seat 1: Bobster616 (small blind) showed [3s 2s] and lost with Queen Jack high
Seat 2: PercentileDoom (big blind) showed [Qh Ad] and won ($1,640.60) with a pair of Queens
Seat 3: YanZeng didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: onegambler didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: DOOM SWITCH didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: MyHipsDontLie (button) didn't bet (folded)

kkirk1329 11-24-06 10:59 AM

My Goals :

Turn the 5$ i got from a friend into a decent bankroll. :)

kkirk1329 11-24-06 10:04 PM

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Nikita 11-25-06 03:32 PM

Well, it's near enough to the end of the month for me and I've also completed both goals, so might as well update.

I played in a couple of the new 50 cent tourneys on stars. Won $2 in one. Played in a couple Thanksgiving freerolls that were on Doyle's Room. Made $8 bucks in those. Plus I've played in at least one league game and placed in the money for the one. A decent boost to a $100 bankroll.

kkirk1329 11-25-06 06:03 PM

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End of Day 2

juiCe[3x] 11-25-06 06:22 PM

Looking good Kirk. Good job turning $5 into $105.69

kkirk1329 11-25-06 06:31 PM

this has basically become my specialty, a friend gets money on stars and sends me 5 bucks and i do what i can.

Edit: got bored and started playing again, will update at the end of the day again.

BrianSwa 11-25-06 06:41 PM

well
 


building a bankroll from nothing is alot eaiser then keeping that bankroll once it is established, I know you know that as well as I do so be carefull and dont donk it away or as some would say SWA it away.

kkirk1329 11-25-06 07:03 PM

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good advice, ill try not to

juiCe[3x] 11-25-06 07:12 PM

What are you playing, Tables/sngs/Tourenys or all three?

kkirk1329 11-25-06 07:20 PM

everything has come from .50/1$ 6 handed limit holdem.

Talking Poker 11-25-06 09:58 PM

You sat down at a $.50/$1 6 max limit table with a $5 bankroll? Am I reading that right?

Man... must be nice to be lucky.

kkirk1329 11-25-06 10:47 PM

sorry, played a few 5$ heads up sit and goes first, then just went to .50/1$ even though it is way over what i should be playing i know.

BrianSwa 11-25-06 10:51 PM

yea
 


but isnt a $5 heads up over your head also since thats whole bankroll, not saying you should of been in your bankroll because $5 isnt a bankroll for any level. But saying you only have $5 you cant expect to get to where you are every time so wouldnt you kinda want to have as much fun as possible with that $5? why throw it all on a game? why not put like $1 in a .05/.10 NL game or play some cheap tournies or something along those lines.

Its your money of course and not telling you what you should do with it but I know if I only had $5 to spend I would want to spread it around and enjoy it as much as possible.


this is getting off topic right now so dont want to make some big discussion about it so no reaon to make a big comment or anything.

kkirk1329 11-25-06 10:58 PM

something about the .5/.10 and below games just doesn't do anything for me, i like to take some risks and try to hit it big, which ive managed to do on a couple of occasions.

Talking Poker 11-25-06 11:29 PM

Which I assume is inevitably followed by you losing big and thus needing another $5 transfer from your friend.

But to each their own.

kkirk1329 11-25-06 11:38 PM

lol you would think, but believe it or not ive won over 1500$ online between tourneys and cash games, if i get to a decent sized bankroll ill normally cash it all out but 50$ and try to continue playing, and sometimes that doesnt work out, but its led to me having a decent amount of pocket change and i havent needed a job throughout high school thanks to poker.

Boobie Lover 11-30-06 04:40 PM

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+$35k for me this month in cash games. The following graph is from 6th on since I didn't have pokertracker on the computer I was playing on 1-5th.

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Plus, winning a trip to PCA and this month has been good to me.

Talking Poker 11-30-06 05:28 PM

*Bows down*

Offers multiple beers as sacrifices, payable in the Bahamas. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Talking Poker 12-01-06 01:35 AM

I was going to play tonight and update here tomorrow, but I just don't feel like it. I haven't payed much at all over the last few days, and I think it's the semi-break that I needed. Hoping to come back strong in December.

1. Done. ~12k hands of 3/6 and 5/10 and 2500 hands of 2/4.
2. Done.
3. I think I made 3, but my TOTAL is at 4 now. Close enough.
4. Yuck. . This is why I hate monetary goals.

Edit: I guess if you count the $12k Bahamas package I won, I ended up up for the month, at least... but the bankroll definitely took a hit in November - ironically, right after I withdrew a whole bunch of money from Neteller.


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