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drizzel_121 11-25-05 04:22 PM

whos the best?
 
who is the best poker playr of all time tell me why?

ytock 11-25-05 04:25 PM

ben affleck man i saw that dude play once and he was good
hehe
seriously tho id say stu ungar just cos he had no fear, he would go all in knowing that if he lost he was good enough to enter the next tourney and win it. plus all his wsop wins

culver boy 11-25-05 06:26 PM

phil ivey! i dont know why but he is good. i also like gus hanson...not sure

drizzel_121 11-25-05 08:20 PM

gus
 
yeah i liek gus alot too hes agressive and wins alot he would be difficult at the tables thats for sure

X-Longshot-X 11-25-05 11:25 PM

I think that all of your picks are a little too obvious you are all picking the big named super stars....i know it sounds dumb but u have to look at new players like raymer who has made it deep into many tournies since his WSOP debut, also online players ( I know its not live) but Shawn "The Shiek" Sheikan is a genious when it comes to online poker he has made some many final tables it would make many pros cry, his live game is getting a lot better too, they may not be "THE BEST" But these young players could give a lot of pros and great player a run for their money

StevieD33 11-26-05 10:16 PM

The shiek is a joke in live games not by his playing ability, but by the way he

conducts himself. how he acted in the WSOP was a joke and if it were my

call i would not like to see him come back. I really hope he proves me wrong

in the coming years with a little attitude adjustment. He plays very well

though........

Ando05 11-27-05 12:02 AM

i dont know why most of the people say that stu ungar is the best player i mean i am not saying he wasnt good, but i gotta go with doyle brunson, i mean that man has been playing poker for over 40 years, not only that he has 10 bracelets, i think he is the greatest player

X-Longshot-X 11-27-05 12:05 AM

yeah the shiek could use an attitude adjustment but he is a very good player, i think the episode that we all saw with the mouth was just a release of built up tension and it looked really really nasty, u gotta realize he was kinda SS and the mouth had been at him all night, not defending him though

coolieo69er 11-27-05 01:59 PM

Gotta go with Gus Hansen. He is a very agrresive player and is very intimidating to play against. He alos is very entertainig to watch. The man has domintaed the wpt too.

ytock 11-27-05 02:06 PM

hey man we dont get the wsop live over here any chance of a few more details?
cheers

X-Longshot-X 11-27-05 08:32 PM

lol a guy wins and onther 5600 or so lose.....no but the final table is mike th mouth and some other not so well known people

Favre[4] 11-27-05 10:38 PM

Id say Doyle Brunson is the best close followed by Phil Ivey. Phil Ivey is a very good player and in a couple of years i think he will prove how good he is and win some big tournaments.

Aequitas58 11-27-05 11:08 PM

That's putting it lightly. Phil is the nuts.

Reel Deal 11-28-05 10:10 AM


Favre[4] 11-28-05 04:38 PM

Lol, thats a funny picture. She isnt that bad of a player but she acts like she is the best because she is a girl. Also when she took like 5 minutes to act that one time was rediculous.(Sorry my spelling is bad).

BrianSwa 11-28-05 05:53 PM

nope
 

according to TP who was there it was alot longer then 5 minutes think he said like 15 or 20 minutes.

Talking Poker 11-28-05 06:32 PM

I didn't see it, but that's what I heard from someone who did. I think he said 10-15...

X-Longshot-X 11-28-05 06:36 PM

thats horrible, how do take 10-15 minutes to make that call? the hand wasnt even that great, it wasnt a life or death situation there is absolutely no reason one could take that much time

S2peck02 11-30-05 06:33 PM

deffinantly Johnny Chan...if he played more tournys he would be SO AMAZING

FatRufus 12-04-05 05:13 PM

By far, Dave "the devilfish" ulliot. He plays with any hand and wins with any hand. He could go all-in with AA or 2,7, offsuite. Thats my kind of poker player

Hawt 12-04-05 05:42 PM

This guy Hawt cashes in tournaments more than all the bots at Party combined, but, besides him, I would have to go with Raymer. Even before he won the WSOP he was a strong and sound player, and always gave out solid advice on the 2+2 forums, it seems like the man lives for huge fields. I don't know how his cash game is, but for strictly tournaments he is up there along with Phil Hellmuth. Say what you will about Phil but he gets his shit done and cashes even if he doesn't "win".

Talking Poker 12-04-05 06:00 PM

I've played with DevilFish. He's good, but I don't tihnk he's the best. Just my opinion...

X-Longshot-X 12-05-05 06:17 PM

I bet he was fun to play with, a colorful character no?

Talking Poker 12-05-05 06:32 PM

Kinda. For the most part, he was just a normal guy. He was two seats to my left for the better part of a day, so we got to chat quite a bit. Oddly enough, when our table broke up (down to 5 tables), he ended up ONE SEAT to my left at our new table.

The #1 thing that surprised me about him..... he complained about bad beats and bad play more than I expected him to. It definitely got under his skin. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, necessarily - I mean, he is one of the best players in the world, hands down - but it surprised me, that's all.

Away from the poker tables, he was a great guy. I chatted with him in the bar after I got busted, saw him on the beach a couple of times, enjoyed his musical talents (piano, guitar, singing), and was VERY impressed with his skills with the ladies.

I also got to check out his "DevilFish" rings, up close and personal. He said he either used to be a jeweler or owned a jewelery store or something like that. I forget.

X-Longshot-X 12-05-05 06:34 PM

What tourney was this? online or live or what??/

Talking Poker 12-05-05 06:45 PM

Aruba, 2005.

Edit: Would have been kinda difficult for me to hold his rings and bump into him at the bar and on the beach if this was an online tourney, no? :D

X-Longshot-X 12-06-05 11:37 AM

Guess it might have been kind of difficult but who know lol

kmb13592 12-08-05 03:19 PM

Phil Ivey. He is just so consistent and is just such a smart player. I've also never really seen him play a hand poorly. Not to mention there is a new era of poker players. Those old timers have much experience, but the wits and smarts of these young gunners is phenominal.

420Smurf 12-08-05 03:32 PM

That is a tough one, I have really only been into poker a short time but as I see people like Phil Ivey (popular guy) lol and Chris <Jesus> Ferguson play those 2 have to stand out the most to me. 2 guys that you see at the final table or the final few at least over and over, that word again consistent poker players. They also have good table behaviors, just kinda laid back and play there game.

Akverno 12-09-05 04:53 AM

Phil Ivey or TJ Cloutier, TJ is one hell of a tournament player.

Robbie Robb 12-10-05 04:40 PM

C'mon everyone. It's obvious:

Phil Hellmuth says Phil Hellmuth is the best! :D

helmuths henchman 12-11-05 06:49 AM

I think its hard to determine the best poker player. It's not all cut and dry like asking who is the greatest homerun hitter ever (Hank Aaron) or the best RB of all time (Walter Payton). With poker as much skill as there is there is also some luck. You could know all the odds but there is still some luck for the exact card you need to come out. Also put into perspective Chan won 2, Doyle won 2, I believe Ungar won 3. However look at the field size. It's definately easier to win in a field of 50-100 than it is 2000-6000. If I had to pick 1 I guess it would be Harrington. 2 out of the last 3 final tables during the era of the poker boom, not to mention he won 1 as well. Also look at Raymer, ya some of his calls might have been the wrong move and he caught cards but he did win the second largest field and finished like 25th in thee largest field. A few people said Ivey. It seems like in these big fields he is always in at least the top 50. Thats why I think it is to hard to name the best when the criteria isn't concrete.

omahilo 12-11-05 10:28 AM

Harrington is a very good player and I mean no disrespect to him but he isnt even in the same league as Ivey, Negreanu or Jesus.

Ivey is the best because he is just on another level than any other player. His fellows players give him more respect than anyone. If anyone has ever read Josh Ariah's blog, in one entry he said that Phil Ivey is so good than he should only be allowed to have one hole card. A comment like this from a fellow pro is one helluva statement.

Negreanu is the 2nd best player right now but only one problem I have with him. He seems to be getting caught up in all the advertising, sponsors, etc while Ivey isnt and I think Negreanu's play is suffering from this. Everytime you read Negreanu's blog he is always talking about a new project, etc. While this is nice for him, its affecting his play as you can see this year as he was nowhere to be found.

Jesus is one of the most underrated players around. He goes deep in tons of tournies and is one of the best players. He just doesnt do it with a flashy style or anything, he just plays his game.

yankeesfn08 12-14-05 09:42 PM

i feel ivey and moneymaker r the best.

Talking Poker 12-14-05 10:25 PM

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha. :D

Funniest post of the year!

This guy is too much.

GTDawg 12-15-05 10:20 AM

Best Ever
 
I'm gonna have to go with one of the following....

Phil Ivey
Johnny Chan
Doyle Brunson
Chris Ferguson
Dan Harrington
Gus Hanson

most of those are obvious

I like Ivey the most, personally. But, I enjoy watching John Juwanda and Howard Lederer play.

I detest Hellmuth's abilities....he just grates on my last nerves.

Hawt 12-15-05 10:30 AM

Chris Moneymaker isn't the best player in the world??? HE WAS WORLD CHAMPION in 2003!!! HOW MANY WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS DO CRAPPY PLAYERS LIKE DOYLE BRUNSON OR JOHNNY CHAN HAVE HUH!?!

AceJackSuited 12-19-05 10:18 PM

Phil Ivey has the best poker face. Daniel Negraneu can read people like books. it would haveto be between them two.

FatRufus 12-20-05 04:06 PM

moneymaker? have you even watched him play? I give him credit for winning the wsop but with soo many ppl it becomes more luck then anything

5dime 12-20-05 06:32 PM

fellow canadian daniel negraneau is the best

FatRufus 12-20-05 06:38 PM

I love dave 'devilfish' ulliot, hes so unorthadox, its very tough to get a read cuz he could be calling with AA or all-in with 2,7 (lol well not quite) Hes very unpredictable and as much i like him i'd hate to play against him. It's too bad he mainly competes overseas and does anyone know if he belongs to pokerstars?

Talking Poker 12-20-05 06:40 PM

He works for UB, so I suspect most of his online play is there. He also told me that he was starting his own poker site - I think it was supposed to be live by now, but I haven't followed up with him.

hahn24 12-20-05 06:49 PM

Stu Unger Is The Best Poker Player Ever To Live His Main Events Are Still Unmatched And No One Will Ever Win 3. Plus If U Have Ever Heard The Story Where He Lost 100000 Dollars Because He Bet Someone He Could Call Every Card In The Guys Hand And Only Missed One.

Robbie Robb 12-20-05 06:52 PM

I didn't see him online for the Holiday Bounty tournament either. (Although I may have missed him). I thought the original email from them about the tournament mentioned his name, but now I'm not so sure. Is he still with UB or have they parted ways?

EDIT: Well, it appears he's still part of Team UB as he's listed on the main page, but I still swear I didn't see him play in the Holiday Bounty last Saturday night. I couldn't actually play in it as I was at this party. Fortunately the party required the use of my laptop and a neighbour of the party-throwers was gracious enough to let me "borrow" their wireless connection so I could pop on periodically and check the status of the bounties. I noticed that Hellmuth went out fairly early. Man, that would have been a sweet takedown. Decent bounty too: 10-person UB themed poker table, UB chips & cards, 10 UB shirts & hats, and, oh, $250. The actual prizes were decent as well.

boatracer 12-21-05 08:11 PM

Can any one person really be the best? I mean look at the last 2 WSOPs. Totally unknowns end up winning. And Steve Danaman wow 2nd. I mean its all in the cards. If you get the cards you can you can win no matter how good you are. Just my opinion.

Talking Poker 12-21-05 09:29 PM

I disagree with you very much. But I love playing with you "it's all luck" guys.

Yes, anyone can win in the short term, but the best players will win the most in the long run. Period.

Govman6767 12-29-05 12:11 PM

I'm the best player of all time
without the thousands and thousands I've shelled off to shark's
They would not be able to pay their bills
Well i'm not the best player of all time but
I sure do keep the good players bankrolls filled :)


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