Poker goals this year
 

Ive made a very reasonable poker goals for this year which im gonna start next month, If all you have is something negative to say about this do me a favor and save it.

Gonna wait for party poker to offer there next deposit bonus and deposit $300 to take as much advantage of there bonus as I can. I find that I go on tilt very very very easy and once I take a bad beat I start to play terrible and dont know when to stop so what I plan on doing is paying much more attention to my emotions and stopping when I relize im on tilt. If I play the poker game that I KNOW I can and get up from the computer when ive relized im on tilt think I should do fine. Tonight I've done alot of thinking and looking at my past hand histories and relized I do play a solid poker game, just dont stop when I know im playing bad.


Ok back to my goal I hope to turn my $300 into $1,500 by the end of the year, a very reachable goal if I can keep a cool head and relize im playing .50/1.00 and suck outs will happen. So what do you all think, I dont mind if you have something to say just dont bash me please. Party poker seems like the easiest bonus to hit which is why I want to start there but what are some other good ones to hit ive deposited in party, pacific, royal vegas so cant get those new player bonus's but any others I havent, any good ones out there for inital deposit bonus's I can go to after I clear mine on party next month.

I'll be tracking my progress in my blog if you would like to follow it at , take care.

do you have neteller? if not get it ASAP! lol

if you do... this is what I would do... deposit $300 on party next month (or empire if they have a reload sooner) during the reload period... clear both of those if Empire has one.

Then withdraw and deposit what you have on pacific, the site sucks but their bonus is one of the easiest one out there to clear.

Assuming you play break even poker and the reloads at empire and party are 20% and pacific's bonus you get is $100 you should have about $532. I would then deposit that on either Pokerroom (40% new member deposit bonus) or Absolute (35%). Do both of those rooms next and you should have well over $700 and well on your way.

Also Absolute and Pokerroom could both have reloads next month... Absolute is usually 10% and Pokerrom is 15% so there is more money for you. if you play break even poker just next month you could be well over $800.

FYI: Assuming also you have not signed up to either Absolute or Pokerroom and not deposited yet.

hey
 

I can't get netteller becuase its not avalible in Maryland, Maryland big wig's wont allow it in Maryland....but I do have firepay which is just as good I think I've never had a problem with it. I've alreay deposited on pacific so can't get there new player deposit bonus but the other two are a go. I read a article on jumping from site to site to clear the bonus and read a article about someone turning $75 into 5K in a year, im not that good to do that but I think im good enough to turn $300 into $1,500.

yeah firepay is fine... I would do those bonuses tho... you will make your $1,500 playing break even poker doing those reloads and such each month. Also when pokerstars has a reload bonuses... you need to take advantage of it.

the 300 to 1500 seems like a very reasonable goal, and probably is something that you can reach in the first half of the year if you bonus whore enough. it seems like party now has monthly reloads, empire does the same, stars is Quarterly, full tilt generally has pretty good ones, etc.

there is enough free money out there that you can take advantage of. plus, if you play solid poker, even at the low limits, you can definitely make some money at the tables. the fact that you post here, and probably think about how you play the game, puts you at an advantage over the usual low limit crowd.

i think that if you really want to challenge yourself, you need to make that a 300 to 3k goal. otherwise, you wont have anything left for the second half of the year.

Thanks
 

After as bad as I've been playing latley wanted to make a very low goal If I happen to make it by half the year then im just gonna sit back and be happy. Like my blog says I have a pretty good idea and I'm limiting my play to 3 hours a day 5 days a week so It might actully take me the whole year to hit the $1,500 and if this year goes all well in january next year you will see a higher goal. I'm hoping to stay playing .50/1.00 through this whole jorney, really dont want to move up levels the whole year, It may take me longer to clear my bonus's but I think what I learn from playing will make up for that.

Brian, I'm not sure how solid your game is, but even if you are half-decent, a 400% return on PP does seem quite low. I thought this myself at the beginning of this month, but I have already made close to $900 this month alone, twice what I made all of last year. Stick to the PP ring games and you should be able to reach this goal playing 15 hours a week within a couple of months tops.

hey
 

my game is solid until I hit a bad beat or a suckout then it goes to hell, everyone here thinks im terrible because I cry when I lose some money but they dont see how I play all they see is the aftermath of chaos. I dont really blame them If I saw it I'd think the same thing, which is one of the reasons im limiting my play to 3 hours a day 5 days a week and Im gonna pay close attention to myself and not let myself get to that point. I'm gonna use my poker chart's system to track my progress thorough the year and I'll post my stats here along with on my blog. My tornament play is really decent usually make middle of the field if not better only been out before break one a couple of times, but chips are alot easier to manage then real money is and I feel the best money is made in the ring games, I like this Idea and I think I will learn a great deal from it but before It starts Ill be re-reading all my books and buying any that I dont have yet and read them.

Do you realize that your goal is to make $1.60 per hour (assuming you play for 50 weeks)?

I know you say you play for fun (well sometimes - now here you are setting financial goals), but I don't know... I mean, is it even worth it?

TP, you covered my sentiments exactly. See everyone, this is why I smoke a joint often before I play LOL :D . I'm in a much better mood and bad beats don't bother me. I welcome the odd bad beat as not only does it keep me on my toes, but it also makes me think "this guy is a moron to be calling me down with that crap", and I then can clean him out. You can't let them bother you, they happen. Have you ever given someone a bad beat? They work both ways and you just have to take the good with the bad, and make sure the good outweighs the bad in your game.

hmmm
 

So what do you think I should set the goal with assuming im playing 3 hours a day 5 days a week at .50/1.00? I set a pretty reasonable goal to make but if it should be higher please share.

At that limit, I don't know, I make about $15 an hour on O8B. I don't know how hold'em compares though. Should be somewhere in the area of $7.50 - $10 though I would assume.

hmmm
 

maybe $3,000? I think I can reach that. OK I moved it up to $4,000 by the end of the year, I think I can do It I have faith in myself.

Geoff, we're dealing with Brian here.

He's going to lose the $300.

Make it $5,000!

LOL.

lol
 

thanks for the support Lou. Because when you 1st started playing online all you did was win, win, win.....You know your soo full of youself Lou. I never claimed to be a winning player online NEVER but I believe I can become one in time which is why im doing this to get better. I dont plan on jumping to 2/4 straight from .50/1.00 no matter how much I make in my 1st couple of months I'll do It just like everyone and move up one step at a time and If that next step is to hard for me then go back down. Your gay ass sarcasim isnt welcome so just use it in another thread where someone really cares.

nope
 

no $5,000 I think is a little unreachable, $4,000 might be to but that is what im making my goal at. Wish there was some way I could prove If I do it or not, since I know you wont believe me either way If I told you Lou.

Yeah I think this monetary goal is a little bit ridiculous.

Just make your goal to play good poker and to improve your game. check the forums (TP and 2+2), post some hands, learn, read, play.

Also you play a lot dude. You should set shorter sessions for yourself, especially if you're prone to going on tilt easily.

Anywho, I don't know what a solid longterm winrate is for .5/1, but when I played it, I was averaging 7BB/100. Although I didn't play more than 12k hands there, so that doesn't mean so much. I think longterm I might be more like 3-4 tops... Even with the really bad players, I didn't suffer any torturous bad runs.

Cheers,

Gutzz

[EDIT: PS. Holy crap I just read a few of my older posts... I'm always telling people that their goal shouldn't be to win money roflmao. I just think it's better to focus on winrates and holes in your game, to treat the chips like chips, and not money.]

You're too much of a novice, Brian.

4 grand? C'mon.

4 grand... Snicker. Good one.

How many hours at the sit-n-gos with the 5 cent payouts?
Snicker.

yep1
 

I did limit the amount of time I'm gonna play, 3 hours a day 5 days a week, but I do like to have some sort of money total I'd like to shoot for but thanks for suggestion.

whatever
 

whatever you say pro, since you have never seen me play really dont care what you say. The rest of the people on here I care very much, cant we go back to how you stayed out of my threads and I stayed out of yours I got so much more better advice that way.

funny
 

funny guy....I'd rather set my goals high and come up a little short.

on a similar note, i'm going to hit the bad beat jackpot 8 times in the next month... its so beatable, i mean its just free money.... i know im a good jackpot player so i like my chances; wanna stake me brian? ill chase every running quads and every running straight flush draw i find, and split the jackpot with u when i hit it

I have aspirations of being a professional... LAWYER not a poker player, you fool. You don't have to listen to anything I say, and neither does anyone else. If someone finds my experience useful and helpful towards their game, then awesome. You? Forget it. We've been over this, you're a moron.

And HOW MANY TIMES do you keep forgetting... we sat in the same game. Jesus Christ - you're so stupid sometimes.

Dude. You're not going to get to FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS playing $.50/1. And, if even by some fluke miracle you hit $1000, I don't think you can beat the $1/2 game. Let alone $2/4 and $3/6, which is what you're going to have to play (and beat) if you even wanna approach $4k.

Set a more realistic goal, like clearing the 20% bonus w/out losing any money in the process.

forget it
 

forget about it, forget I ever mentioned anything to any of you. Im still gonna do it but not bother posting here about it, no reason to even continue this thread let it die. Not much reason to post here if just getting sarcasim and gay comments the like 4 or 5 people on here that actully post something worth reading.

I don't know why you take everything so personally.

Lou, I noticed you had mentioned there would be no way of making $4,000 playing .50/1.00. I tend to disagree with you there, however possibly in the hold'em environment you are correct. Hell, I've been playing basically .50/1.00 (with the exception of winning $100 this weekend playing 1/2) O8 on PP and UB, and I am up $800+ this month alone, and I really do the majority of my playing on the weekend.

Brian, I find that better players play during weekdays. If you have a chance to sit down and just have two 8 hour sessions on the weekend (or 4 hours, 2 table), I guarantee you will see a large spike in your session profits. If you just want to have fun, then just play hold'em. I'm honestly beyond having fun now, I am in poker for the money first (aren't we all really though?). If you can, and I also suggest this to anyone else on this board, learn how to play O8, and I mean really learn how to play. Take some flops at the cheapo tables or free tables. Learn how to read the board and your hand. There is a reason I make so much off of O8 and it is that people are simply very inexperienced and cannot read the board properly. I still come across people all the time that have 3 to a straight flush in their hand, and don't realize that they can only use 2 of those cards.

It is a new game and people will catch on in time. However, I think that once they catch on, those of us (eddo, omahilo, johnbaker, sorry if I missed someone) who already know what we're doing are still ahead of the curve because we are all beyond just simply reading a board and calculating odds. I'm at the point now where I don't even need to think. Instead now I am focusing on real estate bets and playing a little more aggressively since I am comfortable taking a flop with any hand and playing after it (not that I take every flop). Betting is much more critical in O8 IMO than it is in hold'em. Oh, and stick to limit for now, don't want a bad beat to take your stack.

I agree, you should be able to make 4k in one year playing .5/1. It might be tough, but it's very doable for any player who's beating the game. Also if you combine bonus whoring with this (even for just 2 sites)... ez. --- I'm assuming you multitable... Although even just 2 tabling I think you could get 4k if you put in consistent weekly hours.

[EDIT: Ok if you want to get some sort of money goal, start small... win 300 bucks (double your BR?). Then once you've done this reevaluate things and make another goal. It doesn't really seem logical to have a goal of 13.3xyour BR. Long term goals are good, but make the long term goal 1/2 limit or 2/4 (long term, not tomorrow ;) ]

Cheers,

Gutzz

PS. Brian, simmer.

geoff's point about playing o8 in order to increase your profitablity is very valid.

i find that i can make much more playing o8 than i can playing he. i think that this is a combination of things. first, i think that o8 is a better game for me. secondly, i feel that my competition is just not that good at all. like geoff said, many of your opponents dont know how to read their own hands, so it is doubtful that they will be thinking on a second or third level.

playing tight at the low limits is the key to winning in this game, and once you get a better feel for the game you can get very agressive. sure, you get quartered sometimes, but in the games i sit in you tend to get paid off by second nut hands very often.

Eddo, over 50% of the time I get quartered, there is still more than 4 callers so it isn't getting quartered at all, since there is still more than 4 bets going into the pot.

O8B, you also have more chances at even winning a piece of the pot. Therefore when you scoop, the pots are much bigger than your typical hold'em pot would be.

Ouch, took a small hit last night. Bad beats galore, rivered for about $300 in total. Ended up down $78 for the night, first losing session in a long time. People drawing seemingly dead though did look quite encouraging, even though they were hitting their 3 outers :mad: .

The bad beat jackpot was over 150K last night and even I was contemplating the switch to hold'em. Anyone know if it was hit yet? If not, might be down for some 2/4 hold'em later this evening.

I don't think it's even worth it at $150k. I don't try for the jackpot unless it's over $300k - preferably closer to $400k.

I have no problems winning the jackpot at $150k, but I make more money at NL as opposed to L, so I try to stay off the LHE tables as much as possible.

Looks like the jackpot was hit.

yeah Geoff, no one really gets crazy about the jackpot till it reaches 400-500K

For us limit players
 

For Lou, this makes sense. No use playing a less profitable game. But for us 2/4 grinders, the jackpot size shouldn't really make a difference. Remember -- you should be playing the BB tables not to win the jackpot, but because the play is softer, and the difference is more than the extra 50 cents a hand. So unless you find the play gets worse at 300k than it is at 50k (which I haven't -- in fact I find that the huge jackpots attract more players who know what they are doing as well as more fish), the BB tables are still the place to be.

I agree. Add to that the fact that even if you're playing tight and folding crap, people are still drawing with hands that may hit the jackpot, and then you could also catch that way. As soon as I build my $100 into $500 I may throw my hat back into the hold'em ring and play some BB tables.