World Cup
 

Why the hell was the other thread closed? :confused:

Anyway, I agree NOW that we're (USA) in big trouble, if our offensive players weren't as cold as ice at the moment I'd at least give us a fighting chance at swiping the 2nd spot in the group, but you can't win without scoring. :p I do feel we're still on course for a big stepup in 2010 though, not winning per se but we certainly should have a more solid and deeper core to choose from.

you have donovan, and mcbride, they aint bad

I suspect we are going to run a 4-5-1 (I know that I preached this for England too, but I think it is best for both teams). I think our most effective team would run a 5 man midfield behind McBride up front. The 5 in the mid- Beasly, Donovan, and Dempsey, supported by Reyna and Mastroeni. Based on the forwards Arena chose, I can’t see it happening another way. We are in serious trouble if Wolff or Ching ever see the field. And EJ is more of supersub than a starter, with his bad foot and all.

I was going to Germany this year, but I knocked my wife up at the wrong time and now instead of going to the WC I got a new baby son. Poor kid, I got to get over this resentment.

Tony- do you post at Bigsoccer?

Occasionally yes, I mostly read, but I occasionally pop up with something (more often a silly retort to some nut). :D

Kicks off tomorrow, im taking bets on the overall winner. Anyone:)

Going out on a limb... Brazil.

ill give you even money:) $50 max bet.

Or we could have a sweepstake between us all when the last 16 get through, we all pick a team at randon, top 3 paid?

Well the winner will either be from European or Brazil, the rest of the teams don't stand much chance tbh. Winning the world cup outside your home continent has proved a major hurdle over the years and this will not be any different.

England will get to the knockout stages and fall to the 1st decent team they meet. Germany will scrap through to the final playing poorly and scoring very few goals and one team will pop up to suprise everyone.

On a side note, its a bloody scandal USA are ranked so highly in the world. Makes a mockery of the whole system.

Especially in light of the fact that we really couldn't care less. :thumbsup:

the new gatorade commercial for the world cup kicks ass, im not even a soccer fan but the thought of the usa being underdogs in a sport pumps me up. we are always favored in everything so there isnt much joy in winning. it would be sweet to pull a couple of wins ouuta this.

I will offer 300 - 1 on the USA winning it. It WONT happen. England will proabably fall to brazil, but we always have a chance

Put me down for $3. :D

Actually, I'm rooting for Scotland.

Just check 'em out and you'll see why:

lol, $3 it is

To be fair, it's just the latest and perhaps most egregious example of a system that's been broken for quite some time. Luckily pretty much nobody cares about the FIFA rankings (or FIFA itself for that matter as long as Septic Bladder is Chief Bribetaker :rolleyes: ).

$20

Here's the problem.... once AGAIN, you are taking bets that you can't cover!

You're giving me Favre flashbacks. you know you'll get banned for welching on bets here, right?

Put me down for $5 (I was tempted to say $50 and watch him really panic).

your putting $5 on USA to win the world cup TP?

and $20 on it for Shabi?

In the real world, they are only a 100:1 dog, so yeah, I'm willing to throw $5 at your offer. It's +EV.

And if by some miracle they pull it off, I have to say that hopping on a plane with pshabi so we could come beat your ass for our money... well, that would be priceless.

TP, anyone ever told you that you look like the goalkeeper Kahn for Germany?

Lol.

ok, so 300:1 on USA, i can afford to cover $50 of bets on that, ive had $25, if shabi and TP are serious.

I will cover these, as long as you 2 honor them if you lose, im sure TP will, shabs?

i'll take 5

Who makes bets not seriously? Of course we will cover. I've never welched on a bet in my life.

If you transfer $3k to a 3rd party for holding until then Cup is over, then I'll go for $20.

Cause honestly, I just don't believe you can/will cover a $7500 loss. Call me crazy.

fair enough.

Thats $30.

Im not taking any more bets on the USA now:) just incase something shocking happens.

that means you are taking my 5, correct?

yes sir.

Im taking your $5, TPs $5, and SHabis $20. Good luck i guess:(

Are you transferring $9000 to a third party?

The only reason I ask is because I know it's like pulling teeth for me to get the $10 you owe me after each of our league tourneys for our last longer bets. With varying excuses every time, eejit is exactly 1 for 3 in transferring what he owes me on the same day - including one time that was just three days after I sent him $130 for some W$. Where does all that money go??? Hell if I know.

But the point is, I too would be a lot more comfortable if you would set the $9k aside now. Otherwise, it feels like I'm making a longshot bet that I can't win, which is pretty much equivalent to throwing money out the window. If you are willing to set the money aside, I'll gladly go another $5 to $10. You said you could cover $50 worth of action, and you're only up to $30 so far, right?

I'm betting $20. However, the bet is off if eejit does not have the $3000 to a 3rd party by June 12, 12:00AM est. The rest would be paid to me no less than 24 hours after the victory is final.

Since he is the only person we mutually "know," I would be comfortable letting TP be the middle man (if he would, of course). I'd also trust Lou to do this as well.

I'll transfer my wager as well.

Ordinarily, this would be fine... but seeing how I'm a part of this bet, it may be best to use someone else.

Thinking about it, I'd be ok with eejit only transferring 100x my bet amount (this should be up to each better) to a third party. So, if he accepts my $10 bet, I'd want him to transfer $1000 to a third party, with $2000 more payable to me within 24 hours of the victory. If he decides to only take the $5 bet I first offered, then the numbers would be $500 and $1000. Just a sign of good faith, and enough that I wouldn't get completely screwed if he decided to dcooper us.

if ya'll are this worried that he won't pay, i dont want to take it. count me out.

Lets answer a few question now shall we.

#1 - I have Always paid you the league last longer within 24 hours max, ive paid u 3 times. Like i said, i dont play on stars much, and i always forget to leave enough to pay you if i lose, so i move it round and then send it you. Youve never had to ask me for it, and i havent not sent it.

#2 - I dont have that much money online, do i sound like someone with $9,000 online?? To answer another point, i will not be depositing $9,000 online "incase" the USA wins the world cup. I realise i may sound like an ass, but in no fucking way am i sending $9,000or any significant amount of money, to anyone but myself or my mum:D Either you trust me, or you dont.

#3 - i said im only covering $30 now. So i aint taking no more bets on the USA, ever! I was crazy enough to give the -EV odds of 300:1 in the first place! Ill keep RD $3 straight up on brazil though, thats fine.


So if you wanna cancel the bet thats fine, i didnt realise id have to go through all that to win $30. if you dont, i will hold my odds and keep the $30 of bets placed

see above

I would love to be in on this for $10....or $5.

But anywho, eejit, instead of offering for THEM to back out, YOU could balls up and say, "I shouldn't have offered, because I can't really cover that bet." Don't offer it if you can't come through.


P.S. Viva Ecuador!!!!

but "anywho" eejit can cover the bet, but as shockingly eejit isnt a loaded as TP or Shabi are, ill be fucked if im putting that much money in the hands of a "third party".

Just cancel the whole idea.

RD - ill still honour your $3 on Brazil man

1-0 baby. COME ON ENGLAND!!:) :) :) :) :) :) :h:

Ok... I'm still on for $5. I'm not happy about you making NO kind of good faith transfer ahead of time, but I'll risk it. I know enough people in England (and need an excuse to go there for a visit anyway), that I'll be able to collect.

Just to clarify though, you CAN and WILL cover my tiny $5 = $1500 bet, right eejit? I mean, that's like 1/4 of the settlement thing you got from your former employer the other day, right?

Sounds like leftwing is out, so I guess johnp can take his $5 action? And unless he states otherwise, from his last post, pshabi is out too. But I am definitely in for the $5 we originally agreed on.

I'm out, because I honestly don't see myself collecting a $6,000 bet from someone on the internet from whereverthehell. So, with the USA a longshot, and it being an even longer shot of eejit coming through, I'll pass.

If the offer is still good I'll happily put down 5 for people that are dropping.

Didn't mean to sound so nasty on the last one. I know you'll stick to your word if you say you will.

I would lay my house on them not winning, can u take that at good credit? :P

Absolutely. Your house vs. $1?

Sound good?

ten bones.

I will take TPs $5, and johns $5, thanx for the apology.

Im also sorry if i came across wrong. Have i ever taken a bet and not paid? Do you see Favre in my name:D

Fuckvre was a $5 bet. You were taking bets that would cost you, get read for this:

$9,000 if you lost. There's no such thing as a "sure bet." Little different than Favre.

Are you really surprised that people are skeptical in this situation?

not really.

but ive been here long enough, havent caused any shit really...

Bro,

If TP himself were taking these bets, I think he would've gotten the same response. If I were taking these bets, I'd expect people to question me a bit and to ask for money to be held by a 3rd party.

Don't take it personal.

shit im not!

Im looking at it from all sides.

The origional offer was a joke, but then TP said hed have $5 on it. I figured hey why not, then you and your big ass mouth said $20:D (im kidding) and it went crazy.

Ill take the $10, as they seem to be ok with me not sticking it all online.

if the USA win, god i hope not, i will pay, fo sho.