Neteller just pulled out of the U.S. Market.
 

:( Sorry guys.


US member update

Effective Immediately
Due to recent US legislative changes and events, effective immediately, US members are no longer able to transfer funds to or from any online gambling sites.
All US members will continue to be able to use their NETELLER e-wallet account to safely transfer funds to and from non-gambling merchants and are not required to close their account or withdraw their funds.

Boom. I wonder how long until FTP and Stars cut them off as a deposit option for everyone.

Probably won't.
They still are in the international market. (Canada Europe and other 3rd worlders)

Anyone want to house a 20-year old in Canada?

Wow... looks like I got most of my money to the poker sites just in time....

Here's my question: Why doesn't Neteller just give the big middle finger to the U.S.? They are a foreign company based on the Isle of Man. I don't see why they are worried about this "recent legislation" - and it bothers me that they didn't react until the day after two FORMER Directors were arrested inside the U.S.

I can't help but wonder when the first person like Lee Jones or any of the Full Tilt pros is going to get arrested (I don't know what for), and the day that happens.... well, it's all going to come crashing down.

So here's hoping that doesn't happen.

anyone got any suggestions as to what other deposit option I should use?

Ive used neteller for as long as I can remember.

I think it would be wise to hold off opening up any more neteller type accounts for a week or so. I'm sure that other deposit options will close also because of this in the near future.

Word. MyCitadel (not like anyone evr used them anyways) just shut down as well.

interesting...

should be interesting to see how this plays out in the up coming weeks, I guess I will just wait and see.

As far as I can tell the immediate effect of this is that the games on all sites will now be fishiest during the European evening/night times. So US players should adjust accordingly.


Where is that thread about the Free Trade implications of all this? Can we expect action from the WTO?

Oh my!

I pulled all of my money off of Titan just before they closed business to US customers a while back and left it sitting on Neteller.

Just tried to transfer it to Full Tilt and Pokerstars and got denied for both.

What's a part time degenerate gambler to do?

I realize most of you scrubs don't have to worry about it:rolleyes: ...

but how are we gonna withdraw? Will our banks cash checks from them?

Friendly Canadians may be willing to cash them for you...
For a small fee(Depending on your level of A-holeness of course) :thumbsup: :cheers:

I sure as hell hope they cash checks from Neteller or I am seriously fucked.

One of the withdrawal options at Tilt is they'll mail you a check... you do have to jump through some hoops (fax drivers lic. and copy of a utility bill) but it is an option.

Anyway, there's an obvious void left by Neteller's exit, however I would be shocked if someone doesn't step in to fill this void and I'd imagine sites like Tilt, Stars and UB are actively looking for a replacement right now.

Somebody had better do something, cause the fish aren't going to jump through hoops to deposit money.

Fuck.

Here's another thought for you guys with $ stuck on Neteller... open an account at one of the other options (like a Central Coin) and the transfer from Neteller to that other option and then deposit to a poker site or to a bank account, etc. This assumes Neteller allows transfers to these other options.

This is the real problem, IMO.

I don't think anyone has to worry about banks not cashing checks from Neteller, because Neteller isn't an illegal gambling site, so a check from them is as good as a check from any other foreign bank. Money is money.

Actually, I was talking about my bank cashing a check directly from the FT site. I've killed way too many brain cells since the fristing to remember what I've read on the subject.

Fair question, but I don't think it will be a problem - not for another 200+ days anyway... and then, who knows?

I'm sure the poker sites will come up with "clean" bank accounts if they have to. Regulating this is going to be all but impossible.

The only checks I ever got were from PartyPoker and they had some company with a non-gambling related business send me the checks. I presume that is what other sites do also.

Traffic on Stars doesn't seem to be effected, yet. But I am almost ready to have a nervous breakdown.

Western Union is always an option, no?

That's what PStars does and what Paradise did...

I never used Netteller to transfer any funds. The whole thing to me just looked like a mess from the beginning, and I never liked the idea of middlemen. I just transferred funds from my debit card onto the account, then cashed the funds out as needed. Stars sent me a check within 10 or so days, and Party would up my account in like 3 or 4.

Of course, some folk in the Carribbean are probably spending my account money on hookers and blow (sorry ... really, I am), but that's another story for another time.

UB just eased the pain for Neteller and Citadel users. Until the 26th they are give a 100% match of bonus dollars up to $650 when depositing with one of the remaining online banks. I just set-up a click2pay account after reading around. Their accounts have debitcard and ATM functions.

Just got an email from Full Tilt. Looks like they're having people make payments/withdrawals with Click2Pay and ePassporte.

Sorry if that's old news. I'm just getting caught up on all this stuff.

I just opened a Click2Pay account... now I'm off to see if I can w/draw from Tilt into this new C2P account.

A question for you, sir.

What are the fees associated with your C2P account/transactions?

Stars has an FAQ page up regarding Neteller:

So it looks like click 2 pay is the winner so far? Do they have something like neteller did where you can transfer directly into your FT account without having first deposit into your c2p account?

Here's a page that lists their fees:

So far, no... but I've sent an email to FT to ask them to change my preferred payment provider to C2P. We'll see what happens.

Maybe...it depends...how good looking is she? And how desperate is she?

Full Tilt's FAQ:

Very valid and reasonable question ;)

Welcome to my world!
 

I was looking for a way how to withdraw my money from Stars for 2 months, but I have been unsuccesfull. So, I just started to play big satelites to get to some EPT event. now I have no money on stars. I switched to Pradise as I can use my own bank account to transfer money.

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Since english is probably not Murkosk's first language most people aren't assholes about his grammar. Brian on the other hand was just lazy and open game to being treated like a dummy.

send it someone have them withdraw and send to you on neteller/paradise.

Saves u losing it all:rolleyes: :cheers:

My e-mail to Full Tilt this afternoon:

Hi,

I would like to validate my account for withdrawal by check. You say that I need to provide a driver's license as well as a utility bill. My utilities are all in the name of my roommates. Are there other acceptable methods of verification, such as paycheck stub or bank statement?

The response:

Hello JP,

Thank you for your e-mail.

Unfortunately, due to a recent change in our check processor's policies, we are temporarily unable to issue checks to US residents. We are working to resolve this issue as quickly as possible. In the meantime,
please rest assured that this does not affect the money in your Full Tilt Poker account in any way. Your money is safe, secure and ready for use on our tables or for withdrawal at any time. Full Tilt Poker is fully committed to continue offering its services to all of our players
worldwide.

US customers requesting to withdraw their funds will need to create an account with one of our secure payment processors, your funds will remain in your Full Tilt Poker account for use on our site while you establish a new payment processor. Click2Pay and ePassporte are simple
to set-up using our convenient guides located at:




Should you have any further questions or concerns JP, please let us
know, we are always happy to help. Best of luck at the tables!

Sincerely,

Craig
Full Tilt Poker Support

I got the following today from some site I bonus whored from.

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Dear Valued Player,

Due to restrictions with online sports betting in the U.S. (which under
the Wire Act has legal consequences), NETELLER, eCheck, Citadel and
Instadebit have withdrawn their services from the U.S. market effective
immediately. Unfortunately, this has affected online casino and
poker transactions as well and means that you will no longer be able
to use any of these as deposit or withdrawal options at any online
gaming sites including the CasinoRewards partner casinos.

What a mess.

Dear Geoffrey

NETeller has today advised its customers in the United States that they are no longer able to transfer funds to or from online gambling operators.

As one of our non-US members, we are writing to you to confirm there is no impact on you or your ability to play at MANSION.

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I hope another deposit/withdraw method comes along quickly to replace neteller...

This is horrible since whenever I cashed money out of my account I always had neteller cut me a check.

Yeah, I do the same thing. It's only like $2 and it's there within 5 days.

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I am going back on vacation
:cheers: