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Talking Poker 02-03-06 09:51 PM

The mother of all bad beats...
 
I know you guys think losing your little coinflips and 65/35s and even 80/20s are bad, but I don't think anyone should even be allowed to post in this section until someone comes up with something worse than this bad boy.

Hmmmm.... Guess I can close this section forever now, huh?

That's right - perfect, perfect. I had the nuts on the flop (99.9%) and on the turn (97.73%). I didn't even see it coming.

I still can't believe he called my turn raise with 2 pair on the board. He had to know he was chasing a 1 outer!

Damn.

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***** Hand History for Game 3489843601 *****
5/10 Texas Hold'em Game Table (Limit) - Fri Feb 03 21:17:50 EST 2006
Table Table 66388 (6 max) (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Rogue623 ( $183)
Seat 2: dritch ( $433.50)
Seat 3: cresgrove ( $548.37)
Seat 4: Boozing ( $509)
Seat 5: Banana54 ( $428.50)
Seat 6: Jerrya1111 ( $294.32)
Banana54 posts small blind (2)
Jerrya1111 posts big blind (5)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Rogue623 [ Ac, Jd ]
Rogue623 raises (10) to 10
dritch folds.
cresgrove folds.
Boozing folds.
Banana54 folds.
Jerrya1111 raises (10) to 15
Rogue623 calls (5)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ah, Ad, Jc ]
Jerrya1111 bets (5)
Rogue623 calls (5)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jh ]
Jerrya1111 bets (10)
Rogue623 raises (20) to 20
Jerrya1111 calls (10)
** Dealing River ** : [ Th ]
Jerrya1111 bets (10)
Rogue623 raises (20) to 20
Jerrya1111 raises (20) to 30
Rogue623 raises (20) to 40
Jerrya1111 calls (10)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $159 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Ah Ad Jc Jh Th ]
Rogue623 balance $103, lost $80 [ Ac Jd ] [ a full house, Aces full of jacks -- Ac,Ah,Ad,Jd,Jc,Jh ]
dritch balance $433.50, didn't bet (folded)
cresgrove balance $548.37, didn't bet (folded)
Boozing balance $509, didn't bet (folded)
Banana54 balance $426.50, lost $2 (folded)
Jerrya1111 balance $373.32, bet $80, collected $159, net +$79 [ Kh Qh ] [ Royal Flush -- Ah,Kh,Qh,Jh,Th ]

left68wing 02-03-06 10:58 PM

:eek: :eek: wow that is awful.

malsy1022 02-03-06 11:15 PM

Wow
 
Wow my bad beats pale like crap in comparison to this one:eek: :eek:

Dodoubled 02-04-06 07:47 AM

Yeah ... wow ... that is the worst beat I have ever seen. I would have bet the house (an imaginary entity, considering I don't have said house), the car, the kids' education fund (another imaginary entity), my wife (A.I.E.) and the shirt off my back (there, something I do have!) with your hand.

I was wondering, though. In limit poker, I believe there are no betting caps in a heads-up situation on the river. In other words, you can just reraise each other until you're out of money, so long as it's done in the proper increments. I know this is true in live casino games. At least, that's what the Borgata dealers told me a while back. Are the rules different online? I just noticed the $10 call by Mr. Royal Flush after the river bet had been raised and reraised to $40.

Thanks.

By the way, midway through this post, my elbow knocked the main computer power switch off and I had to type the entire damn thing again. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Tony Cheval 02-04-06 11:48 AM

And no Bad Beat jackpot either, brutal! :p

Talking Poker 02-04-06 12:01 PM

Party Poker has a 4 bet maximum. There are some sites out there, like , where there is no cap when it gets to heads up.

thrash1294 02-04-06 05:42 PM

If it makes you feel better I had my nut flush beat a sraight flush yesterday
but I only lost $8.
It was party also:confused:

lightfungus 02-04-06 05:44 PM

Boy TP, you suck at poker. I would have won that hand:D .


Congrats on the worst ever.

MAYHEM45 02-06-06 07:26 AM

Ummmmm 1, 2, 3, 4, 5....6 cards? WTF?

Dodoubled 02-06-06 07:41 AM

Yeah, wow ... not only does he fail to lay down to an OBVIOUS royal flush, but he can't even count, either. What'd ya do, TP? Start partying for the Super Bowl four days in advance? This isn't Jake's, you know.:rolleyes:

X-Longshot-X 02-06-06 09:02 AM

Ide like to see that chat that followed this hand, that is if u didnt just leave the table and cry somewhere...

Hawt 02-06-06 12:07 PM

Send that to PartyPoker and demand your money back for their software fucking up.

rookette22 02-06-06 12:27 PM

See that's exactly the BAD POINT I was referring to in the LIMIT games. If you had bet more or even gone all in; in NL ; no way he would've called. But in Limit, the players take the chance.

Oh my....I just noticed something....

Dealt to Rogue623 [ Ac, Jd ]
Rogue623 raises (10) to 10
dritch folds.
cresgrove folds.
Boozing folds.
Banana54 folds.
Jerrya1111 raises (10) to 15
Rogue623 calls (5)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ah, Ad, Jc ]
Jerrya1111 bets (5)
Rogue623 calls (5)
<<--NO RAISE? You were trying to fish him in for more money? ...yet ... you got burned, instead!
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jh ]
Jerrya1111 bets (10)
Rogue623 raises (20) to 20
Jerrya1111 calls (10)
** Dealing River ** : [ Th ]

I'm thinking if you'd have raised him right there, he might have folded...then again in LIMIT ...one never knows. Small price to pay to see it through to the end. He was going for the possible straight...got lucky on the royal flush.

Talking Poker 02-06-06 12:45 PM

Rook:

Ask yourself this: Why in the world would I want my opponent to fold when I am literally a 99.9% favotire? OF COURSE I didn't raise!!! If you don't understand that, you should seriously stop playing right now and hit the poker books until you do.

The same is true on the turn. Sure, in NL maybe I could have bet more and gotten him to fold, but I didn't want him to fold! I was better than a 97% favorite.

As for his "going for the straight," I think it was more likely that he was going for the flush, but with 2 pair on the board, this is a very, very, very bad idea. He was drawing to 1 out on the turn (and needed two perfect cards on the flop).

Talking Poker 02-06-06 12:47 PM

Wow... that is messed up. I didn't even notice it, but I think I have seen that before.

I think it's a software glitch with Party. When you have two sets of trips (still only a full house, of course) and it can't figure out which exact card (which suit) to drop from your hand, it just lists them all. Kinda goofy, but I can see how it could happen.

rookette22 02-06-06 01:09 PM


Hmm...sorry. Maybe I just don't understand what the meaning of favorites really is. See what if ....the other guy had AJ too? Wouldn't that make him a fav too? Meaning your percentages wouldn't be 99.9 % anymore, or would it?

And grant it you were fav on flop, but on turn things changed. J on turn....what if the other guy had JJ? Quads...hmmm? Who would be the fav then? Or can that even be determined that way?

I know I must sound foolish but just asking questions so I can better understand it. Not trying to be dumb on purpose. :o

Talking Poker 02-06-06 01:39 PM

Well, with two Jacks on the board and one in my hand, I find it very unlikely he would be holding 2 Jacks. There are only supposed to be 4 in the deck, so if that's what he had, Party would be getting a very nasty email from me.

And yes, if he was holding exactly AJ as well, then we would be in a guaranteed chop situation. But he wasn't. He was holding KhQh, which I was a 99.9% (literally) favorite over.

Only if he was holding a hand like AK or AQ could he have a legitimate 3 outs on me (still a huge underdog), and because he lead at the AAJ flop, I think it's pretty unlikely he had either of those hands. If he was holding literally ANY other hand though, he was going to need TWO cards to beat me (like if he was holding QQ he would need to catch both remaining Queens to win), so I knew I was a massive favorite.

The point is, with my hand and the flop AND on the turn, I was holding the nuts. There were no two cards he could be holding better than mine, which means I WANT him to put money in the pot, NOT to fold.

Make sense?

rookette22 02-06-06 02:02 PM


lol OOP's on the J part! Forgot you were holding the other Jack.
*me...dum dum after all*:o

And yeah I get the reasoning for you not betting. Same thing as when JD got the quads and checked. Fool the other into thinking you don't have the nuts. This way you jack up the pot. Gotcha!

Ok thanks for explaining it to me...so in that case....

....yuck worse ever bad beat man!....

*hands TP the "Worse Bad Beat Trophy"! ;)

Reel Deal 02-06-06 02:40 PM

Yeah, I think you can go ahead and close this board now TP.

GTDawg 02-06-06 02:49 PM

I just lost KK to QQ, does that count?
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Sorry bro, that sucks. But, what are you gonna do? You played it the only way to play it and the cards just didn't work out. Nothing really to do but shrug and keep playing.

Can't really complain that much cause anybody would take the 99.9% nuts in every hand they played if they had to deal with a beat like that once every 1000 times.

Look at it this way, the odds of that ever happening to you again are rrrreeeeaalllllyyyy small.

Talking Poker 02-06-06 03:14 PM

Absolutely not. Not even close. :)

Well, not everyone. Scroll up a bit.

Actually, tis wasn't the first time I've lost to perfect perfect... And I'm sure it won't be the last.

jaeh00d 02-06-06 03:58 PM

yea TP i would say that is one of the worst I can see...

2Tone 02-06-06 05:12 PM

Amusing sidenote
 
Had this hand happened on Party's bad beat tables … it STILL wouldn't have qualified.

Talking Poker 02-06-06 09:43 PM

One of the worst?

I should hope so, considering it's not mathematically not possible to be farther ahead than this and all.

I supose it would have been more dramatic if this was NL and all the money went in on the flop, but looking at it purely based on the cards, you can't be farther behind than needing 2 consecutive perfect cards in order to win a hand.

lightfungus 02-07-06 01:19 AM

With the amount of hands you play, it had to happen sometime! If it was me, it wouldn't have happened though...


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