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Benji 09-07-07 02:04 PM

Brag : Good read or Just donking.
 
I'm fairly new to HU but I played this guy before and he was soo tilting and annoyed and gone to a river (about 600chips pot) with A high.

Full Tilt Poker Game #3488847996: $2 + $0.15 Heads Up Sit & Go (26657799), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:48:15 ET - 2007/09/07
Seat 1: S_ern88 (1,120)
Seat 2: Amoorz (1,880)
Amoorz posts the small blind of 15
S_ern88 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Amoorz [Qs 6c]
Amoorz raises to 60 <trying to annoy him and steal his blinds>
S_ern88 calls 30
*** FLOP *** [2h 5c Jd]
S_ern88 bets 120 <120 ? I put him on J with high kicker or J and 5,2>
Amoorz raises to 240
S_ern88 calls 120
*** TURN *** [2h 5c Jd] [3c]
S_ern88 bets 30 <30 ?? thats not a J indeed, flush ??wouldn't bet the flop.Probably 5 or 2 with a straight draw helping card A since 4 would make a straight now//and bettin 30>
Amoorz raises to 270 <I continue with my bluff> a 4 to go not c though would be fine
S_ern88 calls 240
*** RIVER *** [2h 5c Jd 3c] [4h]
S_ern88 checks
Amoorz bets 570 <I hit it and put him allin>
S_ern88 calls 550, and is all in
Uncalled bet of 20 returned to Amoorz
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Amoorz shows [Qs 6c] a straight, Six high
S_ern88 mucks
Amoorz wins the pot (2,240) with a straight, Six high
S_ern88 stands up
Amoorz stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,240 | Rake 0
Board: [2h 5c Jd 3c 4h]
Seat 1: S_ern88 (big blind) mucked [Ad 5h] - a straight, Five high
Seat 2: Amoorz (small blind) showed [Qs 6c] and won (2,240) with a straight, Six high

Yea I had lots of luck here, but I read him pretty good I guess.What do you guys think ?

Zybomb 09-07-07 02:13 PM

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Benji 09-07-07 02:54 PM

Yea since he is kinda tight from previous hands...I want him to think I have a better hand, and yea the min raise was bad I should have raised 360 I guess :rolleyes:



Because I am sure he doesn't have the J i put him on a 5 or 2, I wanted him to think I have a J pair or set or even a KK, AA or QQ as a bluff.Thats all I guess I had lots and lots of luck :D

And yea when he hit the turn with a 30 bet, I said he doesnt have a J and was certain
Quote : 30 ?? thats not a J indeed,

de-coder 09-07-07 06:05 PM

I don't mind too much the way you played it, although I stay away from the min raises myself. I DO mind, however, the WHY you played it as you did.

Based on your analysis you should folded to his flop bet. I'm not sure though how you put him on top 2 pair with the action so far - his pot size bet could mean a lot of things. Based on you "read" raising here was terrible as you're drawing thin (possibly very thin).

The turn completes 2 straight draws. His min bet now means he doesn't have J, but now has a pair and a straight draw (which is still WAY ahead of you) and you're drawing to 10 outs (3 of which complete another straight draw that doesn't help you). I'm not sure why you think he's going to fold that...

I'm a big fan of having a plan for a hand and executing the plan, making adjustments as required. From that standpoint if you hadn't included your thoughts I'd be more OK with the way you played it. It looks like you had a plan to push him off a weak hand and followed through with it.

As described though I have more issues with your thoughts than your actions.

Benji 09-07-07 07:17 PM

I guess lots of you got me wrong.

Heres what happens:
1 - I raise from button he calls < I put him on anything less than a premium hand coz he will be reraising>
2 - Bad flop for me but I have postion < He bets nearly pot I know if he has a J probably its a J with high kicker Impossible coz he would have reraise me from past actions I concluded from him, Its more likely 2 pairs or something with a J in it since he is betting hard then he called my min raise >
3 - Now a helpin card for me came I still have position < He bets 30 so he was bluffing me off and there isn't 2 pairs or even a J in his hand and he doesnt have the lead on this now > So I continue my bluff looking my draw pretty much I was DONKing if I didnt want him to fold.
4 - Now I drew The best hand so I put him all in with that much chips he contributed before he will call that indeed unless he had a very low hand.

Pretty much a Donkey Draw but I guess not bad read.I was pushing him because he knew I was playing tight and my 99 lost to his AJ like 8 hands before this one.So I decided to fire off.

MAYHEM45 09-07-07 09:30 PM

Serious question: Is english your first language?


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