Now that's just funny....
 

First hand of a SNG. Obviously I didn't have any reads on anyone, but I was pretty sure I was ahead. Note my big bet preflop (knowing I'd get action), and my larger than pot sized bet on the flop. I wanted it to be a big mistake for any flush draw to call.

Yeah, that worked out great.

PokerStars Game #2291751060: Tournament #11055633, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/08/08 - 14:24:39 (ET)
Table '11055633 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Riverman322 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: pelleri (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: samyto (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: Derick Ace (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: GolfBaller70 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: hawkins1 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: Rogue23 (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: MikeJ4 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: PUTUALLIN33 (1500 in chips)
pelleri: posts small blind 10
samyto: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rogue23 [Ad Ah]
Derick Ace: calls 20
GolfBaller70: folds
hawkins1: calls 20
Rogue23: raises 105 to 125
MikeJ4: folds
PUTUALLIN33 has timed out
PUTUALLIN33: folds
PUTUALLIN33 is sitting out
Riverman322: folds
pelleri: calls 115
samyto: calls 105
Derick Ace: calls 105
hawkins1: folds
*** FLOP *** [8h 3h 2s]
pelleri: checks
samyto: checks
Derick Ace: checks
Rogue23: bets 675
pelleri: folds
samyto: calls 675
Derick Ace: folds
*** TURN *** [8h 3h 2s] [5s]
samyto: checks
Rogue23: bets 700 and is all-in
samyto: calls 700 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [8h 3h 2s 5s] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
samyto: shows [7h 9h] (a flush, Nine high)
Rogue23: shows [Ad Ah] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
samyto collected 3270 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3270 | Rake 0
Board [8h 3h 2s 5s 5h]
Seat 1: Riverman322 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: pelleri (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: samyto (big blind) showed [7h 9h] and won (3270) with a flush, Nine high
Seat 4: Derick Ace folded on the Flop
Seat 5: GolfBaller70 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: hawkins1 folded before Flop
Seat 7: Rogue23 showed [Ad Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 8: MikeJ4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: PUTUALLIN33 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Nice!
 

After this hand I'm sure he thought he was the next Chris Moneymaker.

Did you hang around to see who ended up with your chips?

Nope.... I figured one hand was enough and moved on.

I can't tell you people enough, and quite honestly it is starting to piss me off:

1. People, with a gun to their head, will not lay down a flush draw for any price.


2. A flush draw has never missed in the history of PokerStars and that will never change.


Seriously, I guess a flop with two of the suit in question will get the flush there like one in four times. There is no way in hell you will get me to believe they don't hit more often than that at Poker Stars. Save any argument as it will be a waste of time.


Keep these two rules in mind and your PokerStars game will improve, trust me on this.

In regards to #2:

It should be changed to: The hand that is behind going to the river will not lose and that will never change.

Seriously, I play a lot (too much) of poker and I'm not screaming "rigged" or anything, but let's just say I see where "River Stars" came from.

Everyone says they get the worst beats on Stars and Party poker, i rarely get bad beats on these sites, not saying i dont get them of course, but i experienced WAY worse on full tilt poker.

TP, what was the buyin for that SNG? just wondering by that horrible play, etc.

$100+9. First hand.

WOW........ that is crazy -- I usually find that when you get past the 30+3's those kind of players are rarely ever found

You should railbird me more. I find these guys EVERYWHERE.

Wow, wasnt expecting that buyin amount. So, from the data collected in my experience and from what TP has just intoned(sounded right but dont even know if its a word or if im using it correctly) to us I am ready to state my hypothesis:

STAY THE ______ AWAY FROM THE FIRST HAND IN A SnG (period)

No way. Look at how easy it is (in theory) to double up. Sure, sometimes this happens, but when it does, just fire up another one... or do like I did: laugh and go do something else.

Rigged! It's Rigged I tell you! :rolleyes:

I don't want to get into it with River Stars LMAO. It's true, it's damn true. The only site I have ever lost money on clearing a bonus. The PL games are so weak, but I always seem to get 2-outered on the river.

The thing is when I sit down at a SnG I plan on winning something and I find I have a better chance of winning without throwing my chips in like that. I play the grind poker in those and it usually works out. Granted I dont play limits like that sooo could be a different story.

I completely agree. But I am more than willing to get all my chips in with AA on the first hand, even if I think someone has a reasonable draw or maybe even if I tihnk there's a small chance I'm already nehind (post-flop, obviously). Then you either double up, giving you a huge advantage over the rest of the field, or you bust out and can fire up another one...