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melioris 03-09-09 03:45 PM

Durr/Eastgate/Greenstein hand (Spoiler)
 
Listen to Barry's thoughts .

This thread is for the discussion of the last hand.

$400/800 blinds, $200 ante.
Greenstein has 200K behind
Dwan has 400K behind (?)
Eastgate has 500K behind.


Greenstein opens UTG w/A:h:A:c: to 2.5K everyone (8 players total) calls.
flop comes 2:c:T:d:2:s:.
Eastgate (SB) checks, Greenstein bets 10K. Dwan raises to 37.3K w/Q:c:T:c:. Eastgate calls w/4:h:2:d:. Greenstein calls.
Turn comes (pot is 133.5K) Eastgate checks, Greenstein checks, Dwan bets 103K, Eastgate folds, Greenstein folds.

Windbreaker 03-09-09 03:59 PM

I think the durrr 67 vs Eastgate's A7 hand from episode one influenced this hand. Tom was shocked when Peter turned his hand over. Maybe Tom felt Peter was playing with a bit of scared money.

Also, even though it's episode two, this is actually the last day of filming of hsp...and they just decided to broadcast the last day first.... so there may be more history that we don't see.

I don't really like the call on the flop from Barry. Obviously he knows that Peter must have him beat. The hand is 8 handed and Peter in the sb has pot odds to call with a ton of hands in this situation...with the over call it's obvious Peter has to have at least a 2. I understand from the audio, BG, is thinking implied odds and such.... but the way he plays the hand, even if he hits the Ace on the turn he might not get paid off even if he hits. This is especially true since we see Peter fold trips, and Tom knowing BG had an overpair like Aces. This is apparent when Tom bets Doyle after hand that Peter had the best hand. He knew where everyone was and still bluffed with the worse hand and won.

melioris 03-09-09 04:08 PM

This is what makes it so good. I think that it is the problem with playing so deep. BG talks about that as a mistake that a lot of the younger players make, buying in too deep in games when you don't have a huge edge. And I think it is the same reason why Eastgate doesn't raise on the A6 hand, because he has too much behind to stand a raise.

Talking Poker 03-09-09 11:26 PM

I just watched this, and it's a pretty interesting hand. At first, it felt weird because durr was turning his TP hand into a bluff, but in an 8 way pot, his hand WAS a bluff. I mean, he MIGHT have 5 outs, but probably only had 2.

I think he put Barry and Peter on pretty much exactly what they both had and played it perfectly after that. I tell you what though - that took huge balls to fire out that 100k+ bet on the turn, knowing Peter was holding 2x.

It really just worked out perfectly for him. I mean, if anyone had played any action differently, no way does durr win the pot.

Listening to Barry's analysis now. Good stuff.

JDMcNugent7 03-10-09 03:59 AM

That hand was played perfect by him and shows how good he is. I love the play.

He had been giving by far the most action at the table, which at first you think is a reason he might be bluffing here as well. But then you out-level yourself when you think there's no way he'd do that in a 8 person pot, knowing that he knows he has a crazy image. sick


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