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Talking Poker 11-02-05 02:13 AM

Tiffany Williamson...
 
Wow.

Watching her play on tonight's WSOP episode was...... what's the word I'm looking for? Oh, right: PAINFUL.

That hand where she thought about calling all in for 5 minutes with KJs only to get timed out - are you kidding me???

Painful.

BTW, I was on again tonight. But I'm tired of giving Blibbity money, so no contest for finding me this week. Just bragging rights...

eddo31 11-02-05 02:24 AM

from reading some of the cardplayer coverage, and the talk at some other forums, she apparently took a lot longer than 5 minutes to make that call. something closer to the neighborhood of 10-15.

and apparently she was doing that the whole time. i can understand taking some time when you have a marginal decision, but with KJs? that is just awful.

i believe that she then pulls the race card and says that people were annoyed with her because she is black (and female to boot). just idiotic. maybe if she didnt play like a donkey and slow the tournament to a crawl it wouldnt have been an issue.

JDMcNugent7 11-02-05 09:12 AM

I really hope she was the Worst player in that final 60 or whatever they were at. They kept mentioning how she made alot of marginal calls and was running good the past 3 days, and sure enough she got right back at around 2 million with that weak all in push with A7os vs. QQ just to flop her A and make her think she made the right play.

Reel Deal 11-02-05 09:21 AM

I loved when the guy that had to sit there for 10 minutes with his aces then wanted to put her on the clock immedaitely on one of the next hands when she asked for a chip count on Raymer. Too funny!

Talking Poker 11-02-05 11:52 AM

I didn't watch her at all during the WSOP (until she got knocked out), but I remember the buzz that she wasn't a very good player. I had no idea quite how bad she was though until I saw last night's coverage. Yikes...

Did you hear Tim Phan comment how two people had been busted while she was deciding if she was going to make that call (all in with KJ!!!!)?

I can't even imagine what could have been going through her head. "Hey, maybe this guy is risking all of his chips on a complete bluff, or maybe he's only got a middle pair. Sure, I'm probably dominated here, but I might be a coinflip!!!"

All I could think about was all the worthy women who had been eliminated, sitting at home, watching her terrible play. "Thanks for setting us back a few years. Appreciate it!"

ChipFish 11-03-05 12:10 PM

Didn't they call her the Human Rain Delay, or something to that effect?

Tony Cheval 11-03-05 02:23 PM

Tsk, all this talk about Tiffany, and not one word about the bowler who 'accidently' got into the Main Event, went deep and then suddenly turned into Phil Hellmuth when someone caught him out overplaying deuces? :D

Talking Poker 11-03-05 03:32 PM

Don't forget his two ridiculous suckouts before that, not to mention his annoying as hell screaming every time he won a hand. I remember him from the WSOP (I was standing in the backgroun of one of those suckouts). I can not stand the people who feel the need to do that.

Some idiot did the same thing in Aruba a table away from us. DevilFish jokingly said to their table, "Hey - who won that hand?" (As if anyone in the room couldn't tell). I liked that.

badblood44 11-04-05 08:59 AM

Man, that guy annoyed me too. He had two massive suckouts and then basically called the other guy who played AT to his dueces a moron. He HAD to know the other guy had an Ace because of his pre-flop raise.

AND...based on his table talk, he was just happy to be there! You can't push people who are "happy to be there" off a hand like AT with an Ace-high flop. You just can't. Over-playing his dueces was equally as moronic and having that guy go home was beautiful.

SirFWALGMan 11-04-05 04:03 PM

If you suck..
 

If you suck, why not stall, and move up in the ranks? The stallers hurt the good players cause they can not see enough blinds to make money. Maybe that was her goal. Or else she is stupid.

JDMcNugent7 11-04-05 04:56 PM

She's just bad, seriously, she wasn't stallking to move up money i dont think, she actually thought her KJ was possibly dominating his all in bet. Just pure luck in her, no skill.

Zybomb 11-08-05 03:52 PM

I just saw the episode last night --- oh man what a horrible player.

To see players this bad get that far in the main event of the world series is disgusting. It makes me wish my best game wasnt hold em, and I could play 7 card stud, omaha, triple draw or something else to the level at which I play hold em.... much more skill involved and harder for fish....

lightfungus 11-08-05 09:04 PM

How does someone like this beat 5000 something people...

Robbr25 11-08-05 11:13 PM

At least she got knocked out tonight.
I was toasting to her demise.

BDMK 11-09-05 02:08 AM

how does a tiffany williamson and/or a joe stillman (the obese screamer with the deuces) get that far in the 2005 WSOP?

boggles my mind...

what are the odds that such CLUELESS FISH outlast 5000-plus people??

anyone?

caro? sklansky? :D

Talking Poker 11-09-05 02:26 AM

See... that's just it. 5600+ players. I think it's just a matter of mathematics that SOMEONE is going to get extremely lucky and get much farther than they deserved (to the final 15, for example).

This isn't a very good example, but it should illustrate my point: Say we line up 5600 people and make the flip coins in pairs to see who would be eliminated. After one flip, 2800 people would eliminated. After 2 flips, we'd be down to 1400 people. And so on:

3 - 700
4 - 350
5 - 175
6 - 88
7 - 44
8 - 22
9 - 11

I'll stop there. To make the final 11 players in this event, someone would need to win NINE straight coinflips! Go ahead and grab a coin and tell me how long it takes you to flip heads nine times in a row. It's not easy, but as I just illustrated, starting with 5600 players, ELEVEN of them were going to pull it off (without even once flipping tails and starting over, I might add).

This, my friends, is how I explain how Tiffany Williamson got so deep. With a field that large, SOMEONE was bound to get extremely lucky... and she was that someone.

BDMK 11-09-05 02:45 AM


very well put...and i hope she realized for her own sake just how awesomely LUCKY she was and she didnt get it into her head that shes actually the real deal...

anywho, lets try and find out any numbers on her, such as bday, etc etc. you know, the mega millions lotto jackot is into the 200M range...so what a better source for inspiration/lucky numbers... :D

Reel Deal 11-09-05 09:43 AM

Right, because there can only be one. ;) :D

lightfungus 11-09-05 04:11 PM

I was thinking about that the other night. This is the ultimate boost to a fish, a win in a tourney...she has got to think she is pretty darn good. You know she does when she gets all scholarly thinker on us when she thought about calling with that KJ

Reel Deal 11-09-05 05:11 PM


Talking Poker 11-09-05 07:57 PM

Broken pic.

Reel Deal 11-10-05 08:53 AM


Gordogg 11-10-05 12:15 PM

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I touched up your Tiffany picture a bit ReelDeal.

Talking Poker 11-10-05 12:49 PM

That is classic. :D

Reel Deal 11-10-05 02:21 PM

LMAO!!!!!!


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