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JDMcNugent7 08-09-05 04:39 PM

What's My Problem
 
Okay I'm weird, whenever i have a somewhat small poker bankroll i want to keep playing in order to get my bankroll up there.
However, once i win alot of $ i suddenly don't feel like playing anymore.
So when i'm losing i want to play, when i'm winning i dont feel like it.
Seems very backwards to me, but thats how i am.
Anybody else get like this? And why do you think i am like this ?

Penguinfan 08-09-05 04:43 PM

It's not the kill, it's the thrill of the chase.

badblood44 08-10-05 12:01 PM

Knockin' at Your Backdoor.

ChipFish 08-10-05 12:07 PM

You're an action junkie.
When you are winning, you are probably playing tighter and thus winning, but getting very bored. Thus making you not feel like playing.
When you are losing, you are playing much looser but having a "high" with all the action you are involved in. Thus making it fun for you.

Am I close?

JDMcNugent7 08-10-05 01:38 PM

pretty much, the other day i said to one of my friends, "Playing winning poker is alot more boring than playing losing poker."
Pretty much I'm just learning the game- although i thought i knew it for a long time like alot of people do. I'm really reading into it now and rarely having a losing session anymore, plus i play within my bankroll, which to me is alot more boring. Still, i would much rather be playing the boring poker i am now compared to the crazy dumb poker i used to play, I'm sure once i get a bankroll for the bigger buy-ins it will no longer be boring, i just have to work my way up.

Aequitas58 08-10-05 01:50 PM

I'm kind of confused...

Wasn't there a thread about two week ago (?) where someone mistakenly called you a newbie ... and you just about freaked out? If I remember correctly, you even had Brian telling you to settle down.

It turns out you are a newbie.
"Pretty much I'm just learning the game..."
and this gem:
"I rarely have a losing session anymore..."

PShabi 08-10-05 01:53 PM

Yeah, that last line was a beauty.

I'm guessing JD won't have to be worrying about being "bored" with a large bankroll for too long.

GeoffM 08-10-05 01:56 PM

If you guys ever got around to bonus whoring, your motto would be quite similar to this, something like:
"I NEVER have a losing session anymore".

Ain't that the truth. I haven't had 1 solo losing session since somewhere around April or May.

PShabi 08-10-05 02:01 PM

If you look at it like that, but pokertracker doesn't factor in bonus, it gives you stats and tells you how you are fairing in the actual game your playing.

Once you leave the micro-stakes the bonus isn't as much of a buffer.

At 1/2, a 50BB loss during bonus clearing (assuming full bonus) still leaves you +$100.

At 3/6, that same 50 BB loss during clearing leaves you down $100.

So, you should've said, "if you guys learned to play micro-stakes (again) and bonus clear, you'd never have a losing session."

Then, I still don't think I'd agree with the basic premise of the statement. :confused:

GeoffM 08-10-05 02:44 PM

Excellent point.

I have counted though, and I don't feel comfortable 4-tabling anything but 0.50/1 (MAX) PL O8. However, I have found that moving into PL has been very beneficial both to my bankroll and to clearing a bonus much faster.

I understand your basic premise though. I guess I'm just looking more into the guaranteed money as of this second since I will be making my first home purchase sometime within the next 3-6 months. Something about home ownership at the age of 24 has a very sexy appeal to me.

Talking Poker 08-10-05 03:03 PM

Define "session." Cause I have a really hard time believing that when you sit down at a poker table, you never stand up with less money than you sat with.

GeoffM 08-10-05 03:11 PM

Have you played 0.50/1 PL O8, or 0.50/1 limit O8? You think you guys find fish at hold'em tables? You would have a new definition of FISH if you played this game.

It's been quite a long time, believe me. I believe the last time was when I signed up at Interpoker, and that was sometime near the middle of May. I may sit at ONE or maybe TWO tables and lose some money, but the other 2 tables I play will always make up for that.

Talking Poker 08-10-05 03:11 PM

I'm with you.... At some point, spending 4 hours to "guarantee" a $12 win seems silly, when that same 4 hours could be spent to earn much, much, much more (in the long run, of course - in any given 4 hour session, I am certainly capable of losing a nich chunk of change).

P.S. See bold above. Either you are getting $200 bonuses somewhere, or.... oh, I see. Did you mean Big BLIND instead of Big BET? Remember, in PT (and most of the time when you see people talk in terms of win rate), BB = Big Bet.

PShabi 08-10-05 03:16 PM

No, no, no. I always mean Big Bets.

Didn't party used to offer up to $200 because I know I deposited 1k a couple times.

They quit that a few months ago and maybe my subconscious mind was hoping the bonii would come back.

You get the point though.

GeoffM 08-10-05 03:59 PM

Oh, you guys are confusing the shit out of me.

I clear around $200-$300 in bonuses weekly. I have only REALLY started to bonus whore, where I will find a site with monthlys (pokernow, party, empire). I think I might even pop $1000 in Absolute this evening, as I would have 60 days to clear the bonus. I will make my deposit, get the bonus pending and withdraw as I have a few other bonuses to get to first.

BB means big bets in everyone's book, doesn't it? At micro-limits, I can usually win somewhere around 5BB/100 hands, so yeah, $5 is kind of crappy for 45 minutes of 4 tabling, but multiply that 45 minutes by 7 (for 700 raked hands at Party) and I figure I made (counting the bonus as PURE PROFIT) $135 in 5.25 hours, or ~ $25.75 an hour. Not too bad. This is my whole thought process behind bonus whoring. Not only am I blessed with some of the crappiest players online at these limits, the bonus is very nice and off to the next site. I'm sure some of the bigger boys on here make more per hour than me, but I don't have to deal with the swings, nor do I really want to at this stage.

Edit to add: Believe me, I can surely find 10-12 sites to do this on each and every month. It simply becomes a time issue with me. If I didn't come to work every day, I would be making this much every day.


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