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gogzy 09-16-08 03:52 PM

note taking?
 
what type of notes do you guys keep on players?

detailed notes on player or just basic ( lag tag donk ) type notes?

TBlover55 09-16-08 04:11 PM

I use colors. It makes it a lot easier to note players when multitabling, that way I don't have to type anything. Just label them a color.

Nikita 09-16-08 05:03 PM

I mostly note betting patterns. For example if their bet size determines their hand. Or if they fold to 3 bets etc. I've never bothered with the colours, I don't know why, I guess because HUD has the colours I need. But, I'm not a great notetaker. I tend to only get notes on a couple players a table.

jillaj 09-16-08 05:45 PM

I use colors and then add some comments on patterns and leaks. With the colors I have 2 for good and 2 for bad players based on their agression.

hackers238 09-16-08 08:47 PM

SOL - Stacks off Light. Value bet him thin!
3BL - 3Bets light. Set mining 3bs go down in implied, 4bet your AK.
s/f - Steal fold
s/c - Steal call -- These help me resteal from the SB/BB, or BT. If he's the kind who calls I need a high FCBet, especially if I'm OOP because then I'll be firing into the dark a fair amount of the time.

ATB - Attached to bluffs. Good to trap with the nuts rather than raise early and scare them off.

DF/DS - Draws fast/ Draws Slow. Good to add draws to their range when they're betting the flop/turn.

MBS/MBW - Minbet strong, minbet weak. I generally assume weak, but if someone is minbet/3b me on the flop I generally take a note.

SP/SSP - Slow Play / Super Slow Play - If someone checks a wet flop with a set, they might get a slow play. if they check it 4-way and in position, they definitely get one. And if they check it down until the river, and then bet 2x or 3xBB, they get a super slow play.

Short stacks are pretty easy to read just by using a HUD, but if you're not running one you might want different colors or notations for bad (passive) short stacks, and good aggressive ones. It helps you call the good one's shoves with weaker holdings on the flop.

All of these are also mostly used for non-tag players. I generally try to think more in depth with tags because they're like me and I can relate to their style. They're also more likely to be thinking players than 70/10/0.5 players, so I don't want to pigeon hole them as much.

hackers238 09-16-08 08:48 PM

Sorry if this post was too intense, I've just been looking into table selection and note taking a lot more recently, so this helped me voice my patterns outloud. Use any of them if they're helpful, or ask questions or whatev.

Talking Poker 09-17-08 12:56 AM

When 6 max cash was my main game, I kept pretty basic notes about the general style of each player and maybe a few things about how they play. All color coded, of course, so at a quick glance of a table, I could tell how many weak players are sitting. I mostly used it for table selection.

Focusing on HU SNGs, as I have been recently, every opponent I play gets a color coded note. It starts off basic, with their SS stats, but as we play, it gets more and more detailed about how they play specific streets in various situations.

MAYHEM45 09-17-08 03:39 PM

Im taking more and more notes these days, Its alot more important for HU, but still very important for 6max. Playing less tables is helping me take more detailed notes as well.

I have a note from a long time ago on a bad player that says simply "sf". No fucking clue what that means lol.

Reel Deal 09-17-08 04:10 PM

Shit faced?

MAYHEM45 09-17-08 04:19 PM

Quite possibly, hes a real spewtard.

de-coder 09-17-08 05:21 PM

spewtard fuckwad
suckout frenzy
simply folds
showdown fanatic
shortstack fool

Talking Poker 09-18-08 01:04 AM

Typo for ad: Aggro Donk.

Wes 09-18-08 03:02 AM

Only notes I take are basic leaks that people might have.

A basic example is something that says, "CRR OOP 56s UTG/BTN". basically all that means is he called a 3bet oop with 56s and that he raised UTG when I was on the button.

or something like he checks back A9o on 84JA against me in position so it makes it a lot easier to call him down later when he 2barrels overcards since he doesn't value bet lightly to justify not calling down/bluff raising.

Windbreaker 09-18-08 04:37 AM

I never took notes for years....at least not any that were worth anything. You really don't need to in 45-man turbo tourneys. The hands play themselves for the most part. You only really play two streets, and I can recognize a regular easily.

For cash games, the notes are usually based on how they pay off my value bets on the river. Eg. Will the call a pot size bet on the river with just TPTK? Two pair? And stuff like how do they play their big hands, big draws, etc.

gogzy 09-21-08 12:45 PM

ty for all the input guys

its apreciated

hackers238 09-22-08 12:34 PM



Just something I found lurking and reading.

gogzy 09-22-08 12:53 PM

sweet i will read through that later

ty sir


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