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 How does this hold up? Friends hand in a thirty dollah sng... PokerStars Game #8879413363: Tournament #45157614, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/03/13 - 04:59:58 (ET) Table '45157614 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: Thrash370 (6011 in chips) Seat 5: mcb13100 (4557 in chips) Seat 7: joosseus (1277 in chips) Seat 8: gamblar55 (1655 in chips) Thrash370: posts small blind 100 mcb13100: posts big blind 200 *** HOLE CARDS *** joosseus: raises 1077 to 1277 and is all-in gamblar55: folds Thrash370: folds mcb13100: calls 1077 *** FLOP *** [9c 5h Qc] *** TURN *** [9c 5h Qc] [4s] *** RIVER *** [9c 5h Qc 4s] [3h] *** SHOW DOWN *** mcb13100: shows [Jc Tc] (high card Queen) joosseus: shows [Ad 7d] (high card Ace) joosseus collected 2654 from pot joosseus said, "gracias" *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 2654 | Rake 0 Board [9c 5h Qc 4s 3h] Seat 1: Thrash370 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 5: mcb13100 (big blind) showed [Jc Tc] and lost with high card Queen Seat 7: joosseus showed [Ad 7d] and won (2654) with high card Ace Seat 8: gamblar55 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) | 
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 Which one was your friend? | 
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 I am guessing he is referring to I reread it...scratch my first guess, I am (now) sure his friend was *mcb13100* and he is wondering(upset) as to how joos hand held up. | 
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 Yeah, b/c after the flop the guy had a gazillion outs. Any jack (3), any ten (3), any king (4), any 8 (4) and any club (7).  That's 21 outs with 2 cards to come making mcb a 71% favorite after the flop. | 
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 Regardless of who is friends with whom..... Dude A got short stacked and pushed in with an Ace UTG.  Looks reasonable to me.  Dude B called Dude A's all in with JTs.  He was last to act and had to call 1077 to win a pot of 1377, giving him not exactly great odds. If he felt like gambling, sure, gamble, I guess. And against Dude A's range, he's probably in pretty decent shape. I don't hate the call, but I don't love it either. | 
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 I should've clarified.  Joosseus is the friend I was referring to.  Marky Mark, er, Reel Deal explained exactly what I was talking about.  The A high held which was cool.  It's not often you see somebody with 21outs twice completely miss.  If I'm not mistaken I think mcb was more than 71% favorite on flop, closer to 82%, yes? | 
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 According to  he was just under 71% after the flop. | 
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 Yep.  I was using the method of multiplying your outs by 4 when there are two cards to come w hich would be 84%.  I know it's not an exact method but usually comes within 4% or so of the real odds.  I wonder why there is such a big difference this time?  Math wizards out there? | 
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 The Ace redraw if Hero hit one of his 6 pair outs, I assume. | 
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 Yes that's it. | 
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