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Kurn 04-14-07 11:12 AM

Messin' with the trolls
 
One evening this past week I'm playing a 1500 FPP SNG for a seat at the 'Stars Sunday Million. 90% of the time I win a seat, I unregister and take the T$, and that is my intent with this one.

Down to 4 left and I'm a pretty big chip leader and the trolls show up asking who wants to sell. My stock response is usually "go away troll" but this time I decide to take a different approach. Remember, the seat is worth $215. I don't have the chat logs, but this is a close approximation.

Troll: Who wants to sell?
Me: I will
Troll: I'm XXXX on AIM
Me: No. Do it through support.
Troll: OK. How much?
Me: $360

(note:this number is not out of thin air. OPR shows my MTT ROI as 68%, so I multiplied $215 by 1.68 = $361 and rouded off. So, math-wise, thats what the seat is worth to me)

Troll: What!!? No Deal. Ever.
Me: Fine. Buh-bye.
Troll: Standard is $190
Me: Standard is irrelevant, its worth $360 to me.
Troll: Why would I pay more than the buy-in?
Me: why would I sell for less than my EV?
Troll: So you're playing in the Million
Me: No
Troll: Then the seat's worth $0 unless you sell it.
Me: ROFLMAO, learn the rules of the site before you start annoying people.
Troll: Huh?
Me: Go away troll.

OK, I did say it eventually. A bit later this transpires:

Opponent: KURN you drive a hard bargain.
Me: He left, didn't he?

FYI: I won the satty, unregistered and have currently played 2 $30 + 3 27 seat SNGs with the T$. One bubble, one 2nd for $216 real US dollars and T$149 left. "Standard" my ass. I'll sell W$ at a discount, but unless you really need funds for a cash game (or you just really need funds), there's absolutely no reason to sell T$ for less than face value. Sort of like lammers at a tourney.

Talking Poker 04-14-07 12:47 PM

Somewhat related...

The other day, I called a raise against a 50%+ VPIP player (with another player in the pot as well) from the BB with 67o (I think it was off suit). You can certainly make a case for a fold there, especially against decent opponents, but I knew I could easily stack this guy with the right flop. He's one of those who can't fold TPTK.

I'm open ended after the flop. I check, dork checks, and the other guy bets. I call, dork folds. :( Oh well.

I turn the stone cold nuts (:eek: :eek: :eek:) and lead out. Opponent raises, I shove, he calls (drawing dead), and I double up.

He says nothing (there had been no chat to this point), but Mr. 50% VPIP can't believe I called a preflop raise with 67. He says something like, "nh and all, but can you explain to me why you would ever call a raise with that junk? It makes no sense. Blah blah blah."

My reply: "Send me $50 and I'll explain it to you."

I quite like that one, tyvm. Another (very, very good) player at the table LOL'd and asked me if he could use that line.

My reply: "Sure. If you transfer me $50."

I'm so witty. Seriously though, you probably had to be there, but it was funny watching this guy go on and on and on about how bad I must be and so on with me pretty much not even responding to him other than telling him I'd explain it to him if he sent me $50. At one point, I told him to send the OTHER GUY (the very good player) the $50, and if he did, I'd give him a 10 minute lesson if the very good player would agree give me a 10 minute lesson.

bigd007x 04-16-07 07:28 AM

lol those were 2 great stories had my laughing to myself ofr a while


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