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Talking Poker 12-26-08 11:54 PM

Last KOD hand of the year? Please....?
 
So standard.


Full Tilt Cash game, $1/$2 No Limit, 6 players
Hand History by

SB: $205.60
BB: $169.90
HERO (UTG): $200
MP: $446.85
CO: $282.80
Button: $518.70

SB posts Small Blind $1
BB posts Big Blind $2

Pre-flop: K:s: K:c: ($3)
HERO raises to $7
MP raises to $24
CO folds
Button folds
SB folds
BB folds
HERO raises to $76
MP raises to $446.8 and is all in
HERO calls $124 and is all in

Flop: J:s: J:c: 7:s: ($649.8)

Turn: J:s: J:c: 7:s: 5:s: ($649.8)

River: J:s: J:c: 7:s: 5:s: 8:d: ($649.8)
HERO HERO
MP shows J:d: J:h:
MP wins $400 with four of a kind Jacks

de-coder 12-27-08 12:39 AM

OK, can you look at your PT stats for KK and post the results - I'm dieing to know. Also - I'd like to know if you ever get it in behind and make good - ever? This might be a good poll question or pool bet....

Talking Poker 12-27-08 01:26 AM

Yes, I do, but:

-Not with KK
-Not NEARLY as often as I get in in ahead and lose. I hesitate to speculate what the ratio would be.

As for my KK stats, do you mean for all time? Cash only?

For this month, all limits (including a bunch of limit play), I was dealt KK 39 times and won a whopping .21 BB/hand. I netted more with every other broadway pair.

For 2008 (and I played VERY little cash this year), it looks like I was dealt KK 123 times and netted 1.12 BB/hand. AA, JJ, and TT all beat that.

And just for kicks, let's check out KK results for my all time PT tracked cash game play....

Dealt KK 1396 times
85.03% won
2.96 BB/hand
Up over $33k with it
Only AA has better results

On a related note, I'm an all time winner with all PPs except 33. Interesting.

So yeah, I guess I don't ALWAYS run like shit with KK, but it sure feels like it sometimes. :rolleyes:

Mogul4 12-27-08 01:55 AM

KOD = kings of death???

Spuddy 12-27-08 02:04 AM

Kiss of death....... because it never wins and you take dirty beats

Talking Poker 12-28-08 02:24 PM

Always time to squeeze in one more.


Full Tilt Tournament game, buy-in $200 + 10 Heads Up Sit & Go (74104949), $20/$40 No Limit, 2 players
Hand History by

BB: T$1910
HERO (Button): T$1090

HERO postsBB posts Big Blind T$40

Pre-flop: K:h: K:d: (T$40)
HERO raises to T$120
BB raises to T$1910 and is all in
HERO calls T$970 and is all in

Flop: 8:h: A:h: 4:d: ($3000)

Turn: 8:h: A:h: 4:d: A:s: (T$3000)

River: 8:h: A:h: 4:d: A:s: 2:c: (T$3000)
HERO HERO
BB shows A:c: 9:d:
BB wins T$2180 with three of a kind Aces

Mogul4 12-28-08 02:28 PM

wow, searched a bit for more info on the "KoD" and u seem to get aweful luck with it mate.

i just lostwith KK to 5 3os though, i hope this isnt a forum virus type thing!!

Talking Poker 12-28-08 02:44 PM

I hate to be the bearer or bad news, friend, but I think you are now in the club.

And yeah, I coined "Kiss of Death" referring to KK more than 3 years ago, I believe. It's annoying in cash games, but it KILLS me in tourneys. I can't tell you how many tourneys I've busted from holing KK.

Mogul4 12-28-08 03:02 PM

Ahhhhh.......... shit.

I used to win with KK.

Still, whats the right way to put this?

Great Poker Advice > Losing with KK?

Spuddy 12-28-08 03:18 PM

I'd have to strongly agree.....

The last few times I have had people call 3-4 x BB at 0.10-0.25 limits with a weak ace and flop comes A rag rag......

I usually still bet, depending on the number of fishie's that come along, but I find KOD to be an un-fun hand to play. Next too set over set, I hate playing KK

Reel Deal 12-28-08 05:45 PM

- 55% win rate w/KK over 2,000+ hands (oh, and 66% win rate w/AA during the same period). Fun times, fun times.

Mogul4 12-28-08 06:17 PM

Holy f**k. (sorry)

What have i done:(

Talking Poker 12-29-08 11:53 AM

You will more than make up for it with how much better you play the rest of the hands you are dealt. :thumbsup:

Talking Poker 12-29-08 11:35 PM

Oh snap.


Full Tilt Tournament game, buy-in $200 + 10 Heads Up Sit & Go (74288167), $15/$30 No Limit, 2 players
Hand History by

BB: T$1260
HERO (Button): T$1740

HERO postsBB posts Big Blind T$30

Pre-flop: A:h: K:h: (T$30)
HERO raises to T$90
BB raises to T$270
HERO raises to T$1740 and is all in
BB calls T$990 and is all in

Flop: 9:s: 3:c: T:s: ($3000)

Turn: 9:s: 3:c: T:s: 7:d: (T$3000)

River: 9:s: 3:c: T:s: 7:d: A:d: (T$3000)

BB shows K:c: K:d:
HERO wins T$2520 with a pair of Aces

Mogul4 12-30-08 12:33 AM

ok, i could get used to that.

Nikita 12-30-08 09:41 AM


Wow. How did that happen?

Reel Deal 12-30-08 10:17 AM

Obvious software glitch, I've sent an email reporting this to FTP tech support, I'm sure they'll get it fixed quickly.

Spuddy 12-30-08 11:38 AM

Maybe for 2009 we should have an entire thread dedicated to KOD bad beats..... and see how many pages of posts we can get too


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