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Defendant 08-18-05 01:30 AM

Does it count as a bad beat if you fold?
 
PokerStars Game #2364472604: Tournament #11250363, 7 Card Stud Limit - Level VIII (300/600) - 2005/08/18 - 01:18:28 (ET)
Table '11250363 4'
Seat 1: HardwayHank (1443 in chips)
Seat 2: Mithlondor (7950 in chips)
Seat 3: stat (9315 in chips)
Seat 5: BUDDHAPOK1 (13841 in chips)
Seat 6: Captain Bli (8746 in chips)
Seat 7: wrwalsh00 (10123 in chips)
HardwayHank: posts the ante 50
Mithlondor: posts the ante 50
stat: posts the ante 50
BUDDHAPOK1: posts the ante 50
Captain Bli: posts the ante 50
wrwalsh00: posts the ante 50
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to HardwayHank [Kd]
Dealt to Mithlondor [Jc Jh Jd]
Dealt to stat [Js]
Dealt to BUDDHAPOK1 [3c]
Dealt to Captain Bli [Td]
Dealt to wrwalsh00 [4d]
BUDDHAPOK1: brings-in low 100
Captain Bli: calls 100
wrwalsh00: folds
HardwayHank: folds
Mithlondor: raises 200 to 300
stat: calls 300
BUDDHAPOK1: calls 200
Captain Bli: calls 200
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to Mithlondor [Jc Jh Jd] [6h]
Dealt to stat [Js] [8h]
Dealt to BUDDHAPOK1 [3c] [Kc]
Dealt to Captain Bli [Td] [Ts]
Pair on board - a double bet is allowed
Captain Bli: bets 600
Mithlondor: calls 600
stat: folds
BUDDHAPOK1: folds
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to Mithlondor [Jc Jh Jd 6h] [5c]
Dealt to Captain Bli [Td Ts] [Qd]
Captain Bli: bets 600
Mithlondor: calls 600
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to Mithlondor [Jc Jh Jd 6h 5c] [8c]
Dealt to Captain Bli [Td Ts Qd] [Th]
Captain Bli: bets 600
Mithlondor said, "you gotta be ****ting"
Mithlondor: folds
Captain Bli collected 3900 from pot
Captain Bli: shows [?? ?? Td Ts Qd Th] (four of a kind, Tens)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3900 | Rake 0
Seat 1: HardwayHank folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Mithlondor folded on the 6th Street
Seat 3: stat folded on the 4th Street
Seat 5: BUDDHAPOK1 folded on the 4th Street
Seat 6: Captain Bli collected (3900)
Seat 7: wrwalsh00 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)

Unbelievable...catches the fuckin case ten

ChipFish 08-18-05 03:55 PM

I count 3 10s in his hand....
Gotta think he's got the full house here.
You have the odds to call looking for the full house (higher)
Pot is laying about 7.5-1
you've got about 3.5-1 chance of hitting your full house (only 1 dead card)
Jack not included as an out since we saw it burn on the deal.

Unless you were 100% sure he would have the 10, I would call here.
In which case you can dump on the river, although it would again probably be worth calling down anyways.

Talking Poker 08-18-05 05:36 PM

I'm no 7 card stud expert, but I would have called too....

Defendant 08-18-05 07:15 PM

As far as the read goes, there is actually a pretty good chance he has a 10 in the hole. His holecards are almost certainly one of the following:

(10) (x) 10
(K) (K) 10
(A) (A) 10
(Q) (Q) 10
or a lot more unlikely (8) (9) 10

One of the kings is out, too, decreasing the likelyhood of K K 10 a bit. He has made a full house at this point, and chipfish, dont forget, even if he has 10s full, there is also a chance that he might make the higher one on the river, which would cost me probably another cap, and Im broke.

I guess I got a bit dejected because this stuff had been happening to me all night long...start with QQ10, catch a 10, and his board would run K6KK


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