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 Another bad beat of Kings, :( PokerStars Game #3016243148:  Hold'em Limit ($5/$10) - 2005/11/09 - 19:37:17 (ET) Table 'Zellner' Seat #2 is the button Seat 1: cepops ($72 in chips) Seat 2: dset ($75 in chips) Seat 3: bhamm_1 ($725 in chips) Seat 4: Robbr25 ($84 in chips) Seat 5: enogk ($25 in chips) Seat 6: EEREZOR ($403.50 in chips) Seat 7: Smiley203 ($198.50 in chips) Seat 8: RedRaiden ($178 in chips) Seat 9: NMesser ($246 in chips) Seat 10: bigchiefrg ($192 in chips) bhamm_1: posts small blind $2 Robbr25: posts big blind $5 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Robbr25 [Kd Ks] enogk: calls $5 EEREZOR: folds Smiley203: folds RedRaiden: raises $5 to $10 NMesser: calls $10 bigchiefrg: folds cepops: folds dset: calls $10 bhamm_1: folds Robbr25: raises $5 to $15 enogk: raises $5 to $20 Betting is capped RedRaiden: calls $10 NMesser: calls $10 dset: calls $10 Robbr25: calls $5 *** FLOP *** [3c 4s 2h] Robbr25: bets $5 enogk: calls $5 and is all-in RedRaiden: raises $5 to $10 NMesser: folds dset: calls $10 Robbr25: calls $5 *** TURN *** [3c 4s 2h] [2c] Robbr25: checks RedRaiden: bets $10 dset: calls $10 Robbr25: raises $10 to $20 RedRaiden: calls $10 dset: calls $10 *** RIVER *** [3c 4s 2h 2c] [9h] NMesser said, "gl aces" Robbr25: bets $10 RedRaiden: raises $10 to $20 dset: folds Robbr25: raises $10 to $30 RedRaiden: raises $10 to $40 Betting is capped Robbr25: calls $4 and is all-in *** SHOW DOWN *** RedRaiden: shows [9d 9s] (a full house, Nines full of Deuces) Robbr25: mucks hand RedRaiden collected $143 from side pot enogk: mucks hand RedRaiden collected $119 from main pot Robbr25 said, "nice river" *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $265 Main pot $119. Side pot $143. | Rake $3 Board [3c 4s 2h 2c 9h] Seat 1: cepops folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: dset (button) folded on the River Seat 3: bhamm_1 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: Robbr25 (big blind) mucked [Kd Ks] Seat 5: enogk mucked [Qc Qd] Seat 6: EEREZOR folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: Smiley203 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: RedRaiden showed [9d 9s] and won ($262) with a full house, Nines full of Deuces Seat 9: NMesser folded on the Flop Seat 10: bigchiefrg folded before Flop (didn't bet) | 
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 ouch | 
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 That stings.... I'm surprised you kept raising on the river though, after it was pretty clear you were beat.  Not that it makes much difference, but I would have saved $20 on the river.  Well, $14, I guess, since you were playing $5/$10 with only $84 sitting in front of you for some reason (tsk, tsk, tsk)... | 
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 Yeah I was down to 84, had no cards before this hand. Yeah when he reraised on the river I figured he had 99, but figured WTH. | 
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 ya just bad beat....everyone hates those but it makes poker poker i guess but you jus gotta keep your head up :-) | 
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 Hmmm.... I'm not so sure figuring WTH is +EV... you may want to reconsider that in the future. Good read though, if you really put him on exactly 99. | 
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 Sure the read on the river was 99, if he had AA he would have  reraised the turn, which he did not.  Cause if he had AA he also had a str8 draw. WTH is What the Hell and yes +EV, lol Just saw that guy today. | 
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 I know what WTH means.  My point is I don't think saying "WTH" and continuing to put MORE money into pots (by reraising) when you know you are beat is a a good idea in the long run. And I have no idea what "guy" you are talking about... :confused: | 
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 The videos he makes fun of Hellmuth +EV Yeah I know it is wasting money unless my read is wrong. Chop that up to some tilt. | 
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 And that's why you CALL, in case your read is wrong... but by reraising, you're just tossing $20 out the window. EV = Expected Value. Common Poker Term. Don't give credit to Hellmuth for it, cause I'm sure he didn't come up with it... | 
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 It ok, I up on the night now. Was able to come back from losing that big pot. | 
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 Do you make money at 5/10? | 
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 I have so far. | 
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 how long have  been playing poker? | 
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 Holdem since 2002 5/10 for about a year, before that I played 1/2 mostly. I like 5/10 though. | 
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