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melioris 07-03-06 11:07 PM

critique these numbers....
 
Ok, so I recently started playing again after a two-month break. Before the break I was a winning player (limit and NL) at a rate and level I was happy with. After the break this has continued, although this time around I dropped to $25NL and $11 SNGs-didn’t provide myself with a large bankroll and I don’t have enough time to give to the 6-max limit grind (this is my favorite game, but for me it requires lots of time to grind it and built a large enough sample to smooth out some of the variance).

Here are the stats for 6-max $25NL day 1 (approx 1200 hands small sample, I know)
W$SF is 39.4%
W$SD is 46.9%
SD is 9.4%
VP$IP is 28.6%
PFR is 14.2%,
AF is 2.17.

VP$IP is a little high for me. It could be due to small sample or I might be a little loose, I will look into that. Usually I run around 22-25% for NL 6-max. AF is a little low for me, usually I run around 2.8-3.1.

What concerns me is the W$SD. That seems way too low for me and could be a real leak. It tells me is that I am not giving enough credit when players stick around. Solution 1 would be to crank up the aggression a little and then release if anyone sticks, or solution 2 would be to continue as I am but to keep in mind this potential leak.

Any other comments? And I know that this is a small sample size, but these numbers are trending pretty close to normal except where noted.

edit-to correct the grammer mistakes I noticed, can you find more?

eejit101 07-03-06 11:08 PM

is AF aggression factor?

melioris 07-03-06 11:14 PM

yeah

eejit101 07-03-06 11:42 PM


nothing to do with this post, but i just played 200 hands of 2/4 after it some guy told my me AF was 18.4 . thats a big high. I was $220 up though. So....who knows!

Those numbers look ok to me, but im not an expert

hiimbob12 07-03-06 11:44 PM




200 is a pretty small sample size right?

eejit101 07-04-06 01:03 AM

very. Just laughed at the number. Its pretty high for any amount of hands

Boobie Lover 07-04-06 01:29 AM

You are getting too worked up about the won at showdown % if you only have 1200 hands. Many of those pokertracker stats aren't even negligible until about 20,000 hands.

Boobie Lover 07-04-06 01:33 AM

Also, I don't really think won at showdown % is that that great of a stat. Everyone I have over 5K hands has one around 47-54. If it is below that, you are probably just running bad.

melioris 07-04-06 10:34 AM

Because a lot of the time a +EV call on the river in NL could have a W$SD around 25-33% (in the most simple situation of just calling a bet on the river), or do you have some other reason why you don't like this stat?

Boobie Lover 07-04-06 12:01 PM

Personally, I think went to showdown % is a better statistic than won at showndown %. I suppose there is some merit in both stats, but they don't really materialize until you have far more hands than you currently do now.

Talking Poker 07-05-06 02:50 AM

Right...

Take a limit poker hand, for example: If you're getting 10:1 on a river call and you are winning 30% of these showdowns, that is HUGE +EV. Sure, you could start folding a lot more to increase your W$SD number, but that woud be killing much more important numbers, namely your BB/100.

The same is true for NL, as you suggested.


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