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matty_goal 07-18-06 04:24 PM

This happens a lot to me at Partypoker
 
Here you go, one of my bad beats at partyPoker.

And this aint even the worst one:

OR did I do something wrong at this hand.

You tell me:( .

#Game No : 4755696250
***** Hand History for Game 4755696250 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:26181229 Level:2 Blinds(30/60) - Tuesday, July 18, 16:10:50 ET 2006
Table Players Club $1,250(768088) Table #77 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: mateo_ak ( $2170 )
Seat 2: TeamSnow ( $2445 )
Seat 4: Simonvsworld ( $4709 )
Seat 5: glorioso222 ( $3740 )
Seat 6: highcard_420 ( $2850 )
Seat 7: Scipio1 ( $2735 )
Seat 8: wampmusa ( $2398 )
Seat 9: AiGoTcHa ( $6363 )
Seat 10: matty_goall ( $2570 )
Trny:26181229 Level:2
Blinds(30/60)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to matty_goall [ 7s 3s ]
mateo_ak folds.
TeamSnow calls [60].
Simonvsworld calls [60].
glorioso222 folds.
highcard_420 folds.
Scipio1 folds.
wampmusa calls [60].
AiGoTcHa calls [30].
matty_goall checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, 5d, 6c ]
AiGoTcHa checks.
matty_goall bets [60].
TeamSnow calls [60].
Simonvsworld raises [120].
wampmusa folds.
AiGoTcHa folds.
matty_goall raises [120].
TeamSnow folds.
Simonvsworld is all-In [4529]
matty_goall is all-In [2330]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qh ]
matty_goall shows [ 7s, 3s ] a straight, three to seven.
Simonvsworld shows [ 7h, 8d ] a straight, four to eight.
Simonvsworld wins 2139 chips from side pot #1 with a straight, four to eight.
Simonvsworld wins 5380 chips from the main pot with a straight, four to eight.
Player matty_goall finished in 804 place

Talking Poker 07-18-06 04:35 PM

How is this a bad beat? You were never ahead in the hand. Not even for a second.

Boobie Lover 07-18-06 04:40 PM

Cold decked - yes.
Bad beat - no.

bdawg31 07-18-06 04:42 PM

Its his first post - maybe he needs clarification.

A 'bad beat' is typically referred to as a beat where someone gets lucky against you (sucks out) in some crazy manner or if they were making a bad play. It doesnt necessarily have to be a 'bad play' by the opponent for people to cry about their 'bad beat'. For example, you have AA and flop is rags. You bet and opponent calls. Turn is rags - you go all-in and he calls and shows you KK. Not really a bad play by him - but river is a K. This would get posted as a 'bad beat'. Now same situation with the rag board and the guy has bottom pair with five kicker and calls your all-in turn bet and he catches his five - that is also a bad beat.

Your 'beat' was more of a bad-timing/unlucky thing.

Penguinfan 07-18-06 04:57 PM

This is closer to a bad beat
 
But still just unlucky, nobody did anything wrong, except the stupid fucking dealer:



Full Tilt Poker Game #809803007: Table Chris Ferguson - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:48:38 ET - 2006/07/18
Seat 1: TheRedOx ($13.65)
Seat 2: Penguinfan ($14.75)
Seat 3: Scott2401 ($19)
Seat 6: addiegg ($14.90)
Seat 7: Aces_up1000 ($43.05)
Seat 8: cute16 ($38.50)
Seat 9: andoza ($24.60)
cute16 posts the small blind of $0.25
andoza posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Penguinfan [Ac Ah]
TheRedOx folds
Penguinfan raises to $1.75
Scott2401 folds
addiegg folds
Aces_up1000 calls $1.75
cute16 folds
andoza raises to $7.25
Penguinfan raises to $14.75, and is all in
btandersen sits down
Aces_up1000 folds
andoza calls $7.50
Penguinfan shows [Ac Ah]
andoza shows [Qd Qc]
btandersen adds $28.35
*** FLOP *** [7c 2s 3s]
*** TURN *** [7c 2s 3s] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [7c 2s 3s Qs] [7h]
Penguinfan shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
andoza shows a full house, Queens full of Sevens
andoza wins the pot ($29.95) with a full house, Queens full of Sevens
Penguinfan is sitting out
andoza: woow
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $31.50 | Rake $1.55
Board: [7c 2s 3s Qs 7h]
Seat 1: TheRedOx didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Penguinfan showed [Ac Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 3: Scott2401 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: addiegg didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Aces_up1000 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: cute16 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: andoza (big blind) showed [Qd Qc] and won ($29.95) with a full house, Queens full of Sevens

JDMcNugent7 07-18-06 05:05 PM

i really dont get the point of posting bad beats unless they are ridiculously bad or for alot of $.
if i posted in this section, or anyone else who plays alot of tables at a time and therefore gets a lot of hands in... i would have prob about 5 posts of "bad beats" a day.
i usually never even look at this section, i think it'd be alot more productive to just see if u played the hand correctly rather than posting about just how much more unlucky u are then the rest of the world.

melioris 07-18-06 05:56 PM

Most of us are on the wrong end of bad beats all the time and see it not as a bad thing; I go so far as to say that bad beats can be a sign that you are playing well. Some players suffer a bad beat and it throws them off, they get really pissed at the cosmic injustice of it and go on tilt. I see the purpose of this section as posting your bad beats and being able to then let them go. If you are prone to holding onto bad beats and letting it affect your game, you can come to this section and post the hand and leave all that negative energy here.

thrash1294 07-18-06 06:08 PM

niether is a bad beat.
1st hand you should of saw that coming
2nd hand is a lost race . a race you were ahead indeed

A bad beat I consider as follow you flop a boat and some ass clown calls your allin and catches a bigger boat on the river.
also flopiing quads and some other assclown catches better quads by runner
runner now thats a bad beat:thumbsup:

johnp158 07-18-06 06:33 PM


Wow when did being a 4:1 favorite become a race? I'd like to race you sometime.

Talking Poker 07-18-06 06:49 PM

FINALLY, I understand how you are able to make so much more money than the rest of us. You take 5 "Bad Beats" (and I'll assume that means pretty bad, like 4:1 or worse sucking out) per day.... I think I take about... oh.... 5 times that many on a typical "day" or poker. I probably take 5 every couple of hours.

Luckbox.

Talking Poker 07-18-06 06:50 PM

Agreed. Leave the negative energy here, in this section, where people who don't want to see it can easily choose to ignore it. :)

Zybomb 07-18-06 10:59 PM

If you do indeed want advice on this hand.

- Bet more on the flop or check raise. You bet 60 into a 300 pot. That's 6:1 on someones call Never bet this little. All drawing hands that could outdraw you will call this bet and be correct in doing so

- When raised, perfect reraise BUT NOT A MIN RERAISE. Whats the point?

As far as the result, not a bad beat considering you were dominated the entire time, but just unfortunate luck.

JDMcNugent7 07-19-06 12:03 AM

really good point, i actually used to feel alot better about bad beats after telling someone about them to. so i totally get it, i guess i just dont need to anymore.
if its gonna help ur game by posting them here and forgetting about them, then its something u should def. be doing.

i guess i was just trying to say, that ppl who actually beleive bad beats and bad luck are the reason they are a losing player overall, as if they are somehow unluckier than the rest of the world, those ppl are only fooling themselves and hurting their bb/100 in the long run by tricking themselves and blaming bad play, on bad luck.
basically exactly what the article ZY just posted said.

johnp158 07-19-06 03:19 AM

Strangely enough you gave me +rep for this and said "ill race ya qqvsaa anytime online"

Don't get me wrong, thanks for the + rep. But do you mean you'll take QQ vs. my AA anytime online? Because it's rigged or something?

thrash1294 07-19-06 10:25 PM

JUst messing with ya

But just saw qq beat aa right after reading your post then see ak to aa ak being an 8 to 1 dog.. win on the flop. All I am saying is AA is only a pair the best starting hand yes but its poker luck and chance comes into play also:p


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