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Game #2381581293: Hold'em NL (150/300) - 2006/09/08 - 21:56:12 (ET)
Table "Special $1000 GTD 3411392 - 4" Seat 5 is the button.
Seat 1: TCheval (4435 in chips)
Seat 2: LudiKure (4350 in chips)
Seat 3: swamp (16885 in chips)
Seat 4: julie17 (4050 in chips)
Seat 5: mooney101 (3520 in chips)
Seat 6: Nickj0101 (4670 in chips)
Seat 7: STEINER (7365 in chips)
Seat 8: Higgy123 (8880 in chips)
Seat 9: stillslim (5000 in chips)
Seat 10: Amiceilli (7147.50 in chips)
STEINER: posts small blind 150
Higgy123: posts big blind 300
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to TCheval [Kh Qh]
stillslim: folds
Amiceilli: folds
TCheval: raises to 900
LudiKure: calls 900
swamp: calls 900
julie17: calls 900
mooney101: folds
STEINER: folds
Higgy123: folds
----- FLOP ----- [6c 2h 4h]
TCheval: bets 1800
LudiKure: folds
swamp: raises to 3600
julie17: folds
TCheval: is all-in 1735
Returned uncalled bets 65 to swamp
----- TURN ----- [6c 2h 4h][4c]
----- RIVER ----- [6c 2h 4h 4c][Ac]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
swamp: shows [9c Kc] (A Flush, Ace high)
TCheval: shows [Kh Qh] (A Pair of Fours, Ace high)
swamp collects 11120 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 11120 Main pot 11120 Rake 0
Board [6c 2h 4h 4c Ac]
Seat 1: TCheval showed [Kh Qh] and lost
Seat 2: LudiKure folded on the Flop
Seat 3: swamp showed [9c Kc] and won (11120) with A Flush, Ace high
Seat 4: julie17 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: mooney101 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: STEINER (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Higgy123 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: stillslim folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Amiceilli folded before Flop (didn't bet)

You may shoot yourself. Allin on draw not even a nut draw. Where you short stacked at time? I have done this stupid move myself and after said to myself whos the donkey? wait a minute thats right its me:eek:

hmmmm he got real lucky

well 4 people cold calling the raise preflop
when he goes over the top you should feel your only outs are the hearts and maybe a king if your lucky.
He was making a total bluff which you picked off only to lose by a monster suck out.
But somehow I think the right play would have been to fold after he makes the big raise you would still have "some chips to play with"

Thrash and Gov.... are you people kidding me? Fold to his raise??? :confused: :confused:

Im drunk and just got home -- but Im pretty sure Im not crazy here

After preflop there is 4050 in the pot.

After he bets there is 5850 in the pot, after his opponent raises there is 9385 in the pot (65 of his raise doesnt count)

So it's on him to call 1735 into a 9385 pot....thats like 5.5:1 on his money on a 3:1 draw (assuming his K or Q is no good....theres even better odds if they are). There is no chance in hell I lay this down or even give any thought to laying it down (I likely push the flop btw, not bet 1800, but thats besides the point)

Right..... folding to that small raise would be a HORRIBLE play. Especially when in reality, he was something like a 10:1 favorite!

7.9:1, but who's counting?

You can't fold there even if opponent shows you top set.

On the other hand....

PF: all-in, limp or fold. No reason to play KQs postflop OOP after putting 20% of your stack in.

Flop: All-in. What's this betting half your stack?