thanks, I didnt take one bit of what you said as a insult and have to admit its pretty damn good advice, I really like the way you slid the insult at jackass in there, anywho Ill take your advice and start back at the beggining. Im not to concerned with making tons of money, I dont expect to get rich from this but would like to break even. You are probolly right I'am playing with scared money which I know is wrong but hey im no lawyer

. Thanks again for your input Lou and everyone else.