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Old 02-16-05, 12:40 AM
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NO call here with 4 all ins before me...NO WAY! Heads up maybe, but with that many all with the same chip stacks (first hand) you are likely to be beat unless you happen to improve. I would fold AA (for the first time, BTW as I have never done it yet) in that spot.

We have been here before in another thread but my feelings on this are....

--In a cash game you would push in almost all spots pre-flop if you can get your chips in with the best hand. If you get drawn out on you know you made the right play and you buy more chips.

--In a tourney, where it IS NOT only about having the best statistical hand, but also about survival, there do arise certain spots where you could fold "in the dark" (the 4 all in's first hand WSOP for example).

--Lets assume those 4 players are not obviously intoxicated, blind, wearing a clown suit, etc. ..... You are likely up against KK, QQ, maybe AK, JJ. Most likely 2-3 PP hands. While AA is a big favorite against one lower pocket pair, odds become likely that you will have to improve to win the hand.

to paraphrase a quote I have heard many times....

"You can't win the tourney on the first hand, but you can lose it. "

These are just my thoughts, I know only a few agree.