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Old 03-27-05, 04:30 AM
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This is a pretty shitty beat, but I cant say I would of played this hand the same way you did.

I would of preflop raised with the 8s since there had been a lot of weak play thus far (unless people were very frequently trapping preflop at the table) and unless you plan to see a cheap flop and fold unless u hit trips (which is proper strategy at many times, and in that case you want as many callers as possible, I just feel this isnt one of those times), you dont wanna be up against 4 opponents with a mid pair, when you sense weak preflop play and want to either pick the pot up or outbet the caller on the flop.

Assuming I did just check in BB, I would of led out on the flop rather than check raising, as under no circumstances did you want anyone to see a card for free or even for anything remotely cheap...because although u were looking good (but not great) on the flop with an over pair, there literally were 2 cards in the deck (the last two 8's) that could come on the turn that wouldnt scare you. 9-A are all over cards to your pair. 3,4,5 pairs the board, 2,6,7 complete someones straight...you also didnt want someone to bet an amount which your raise couldnt force them out and leave them around to get lucky

Perahps your check which led him to bet the 400 made him feel committed to the extra 705 raise, but I cant imagine he thought he was ahead... or had many outs. His best hope would be you had high cards one of which werent an ace, which would mean he was ahead. or one of your hole cards paired the board (which left him 10 outs) Outside of that basically anything else would leave him at 25% or less

Just realize that after your raise there was 1500 in the pot (500 invested by him) and he needed to call another 700, so he was getting 2 to 1 on his money, so although by no means is it a good call, its not a particularly horrible one either

It does make the call worse that was you were putting him in a decision for all of his chips

Just a final note, I think there is a decent chance that you may of picked up this pot right away if you had fired rather than checked, but this guy could just be a complete idiot and think his ace high with 8 kicker was good, or he had a good shot of hittin the inside straight.