[jimmytheg]

supposedly, VVP was a monster in the hollywood home games to the creators of the WPT used to play in. I know that sounds cheesy, but i read an interview (cant remember where) with two of the guys that were really involved with getting the WPT off the ground....and they talked about how Vince was a huge winner in the home game circles that they played in.

Think about, where did this guy come from? He had to have been playing somewhere, and had some kind of rep, to get asked to be involved with the Wpt. It's not like Vince Van Patton was a well known, big-draw celebrity who would bring in the viewers to the show.

he also finished 16th in the Plaza championship over the summer, the tournament that Negreanu won and was televised on Fox. That field only consisted of 70 odd players...but they were all pro's.

That being said, I hate VVP with a passion and find him to be horribly unfunny....almost as bad as Norman Chad, who's never won a dime in his life at cards yet feels comfortable criticizing the play of professionals