[PShabi]

You guys bashing Grossman sound like you haven't been watching Bears football this season.

We never won a game because of Orton. We won because the defense dominated and Orton did what he had to do to win. Grossman did the same thing last night. If we score that many points, we should win.

But, when you give up 200 yards over your average and have cornerbacks who can't stay off the ground, you get beat.

Carolina stepped up and we didn't. But all this quarterback talk has nothing to do with it.

Omahilo,

Why do you always sound bitter when you talk about Chicago sports? I wouldn't call 11 games a fluke season. Just because they didn't do it conventionally doesn't make it a fluke. And the Panthers didn't "draw" the game, they had to win to earn the right to play us.