Honestly, I don't know how you guys can say it's an awful hand. Especially if it's suited. Don't tell me you guys never played J9 suited before....it's basically a similar type hand. More often than not, you're going to end up mucking it and paying the BB.
Personally, I hardly ever play 10 8 off unless I'm in the blinds. I would play 10 8 suited just about every chance I could limp into a pot in limit. In NL, those hands are generally thrown away, depending on position and chip stack of you and your opponents.
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