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Old 10-25-04, 06:45 PM
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Default Josh Arieh (WSOP04) - Conduct

I like many others enjoyed watching the WSOP on TV. I really enjoyed watching all my favourite players and how they handled the biggest event of the year.

There was a few (well alot) of things that really pissed me off this year though. The amount of players showing no class whatsoever when losing or winning hands.

The most famous case being how Josh Arieh conducted himself over the event. Never have I seen someone tarnish the name of poker so much as him and his actions over the event.

A few times he made gestures and curses about how people "dared" call him 'all in' with hands that were better than his! He mouths off how great he is yet 3-4 times he stayed alive with lucky come from behind beats on bad calls.

The classic moment was when Harry Demetriou (A really quiet, unassuming pro) from England went all in with the best hand and Josh out flopped him in the hand and starting berating him and jumping about like he was the king. After you just took a million pot there are ways to do things, and rubbing someone's nose in it and saying they made a bad call when they didnt is lame. He later said sorry to Harry (in person at Aurau and on forums) but he apologises for doing it to him, not what he said. He showed a few other times how not do do things and make himself look a brat. The next hand be knocked out Harry with A7 vs AK did Harry whine?


Mattias Andersson is another one, who to a lesser extent needs to grow up and learn not to run about screaming everytime he wins a hand.

On the other hand GREG "FOSSILMAN" RAYMER took every bad beat well, but also took every victory with class, going up to the player shaking their hands and saying "well played" etc..Manners dont cost a penny people..

If your going to play mind games at least Marcel Luske does it with class! Anyone see him singing at the tables knows what I mean. He's a gentleman on and off the table and took his bad beats like a man.

John Murphy shows you young players can show respect for the game and other players without having lots of experiance of live events.

I know I might be biased mainly due to the fact in Europe your not allowed to talk during hands. It maintains the level of respect and cuts out the wise cracks. There is a place for chatting and having fun between hands.

Do others believe Josh Arieh acted without class? or is it just me.