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Old 05-10-09, 06:41 PM
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Default A Kings Aces Example

For all the "never fold KK preflop" crowd, do you all stack off here like this guy did?

Full Tilt Poker Game #12144225295: FTOPS Event #10 (84233293), Table 315 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:28:37 ET - 2009/05/10
Seat 1: Lucky1223 (10,900)
Seat 3: januaryman74 (4,265)
Seat 4: jjmoney05 (3,765)
Seat 5: littlesusiebaby (5,425)
Seat 6: xraytilt (4,500)
Seat 7: TheNewOne2 (4,850)
Seat 8: zybomb (6,290)
Seat 9: izik_74 (5,005)
Lucky1223 posts the small blind of 20
januaryman74 posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zybomb [Jd 4d]
jjmoney05 folds
littlesusiebaby raises to 80
xraytilt folds
TheNewOne2 calls 80
zybomb folds
izik_74 calls 80
Lucky1223 folds
januaryman74 has 15 seconds left to act
januaryman74 raises to 320
littlesusiebaby has 15 seconds left to act
littlesusiebaby raises to 1,480
TheNewOne2 folds
izik_74 folds
januaryman74 has 15 seconds left to act
littlesusiebaby: i got u
januaryman74 has requested TIME
TheNewOne2: course u do
littlesusiebaby: lol
januaryman74 raises to 4,265, and is all in
littlesusiebaby calls 2,785
januaryman74 shows [Kc Kh]
littlesusiebaby shows [Ah Ac]

When this is going on and january is tanking and requesting time, im like it's clear as day that suzie has Aces and obv this other guy has kings. No one has been reraising preflop bc of the low blinds and big stack sizes and no one is going to risk their tournament like this. Every pot has been played for pot control

Yea you could 4 bet AK or QQ or whatever I guess, but it just doesn't really happen at this point (and even if it does which is never we lost 320 instead of risking our 125 BB stack allin pre)....., I'd snap fold the Kings in that spot , this is just always Aces at this point. And it's not results oriented, bc while they were tanking I gave them their hands and said the Kings should fold.

Flame away or whatever, but I see people stacking off like this all the time and hardly ever if at all see anything but Aces from the other player
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Last edited by Zybomb; 05-10-09 at 06:45 PM.