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Old 12-17-04, 05:09 PM
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I recently started playing a lot of limit over at empire although I usually don't as I prefer to play sit n gos and other tourneys. I'm up about $20, but it seems that every pot I win, it's so small compared to many of the other pots I don't take part in or lose. Most pots I win are like $4-6 at a .5/1 table when the averages always seem to be around the 8-10 area.. I'm thinking it's maybe because I'm pushing my good hands so hard that no one ever sees a showdown with me. I don't know, but that's my style. I like to make people pay for their cards. I don't like to slow play my cards unless I have a really good hand in which case I do slow play them for possible check raises etc, but this doesn't happen all too often. I guess a win is a win, but I'd love to be able to win more each time. Any advice?
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Old 12-17-04, 05:20 PM
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Are you playing extremely tight? If that's the case, your opponents will think twice when you begin pounding a hand. Ya know? You can't sit there and fold for three obits, and then come out raising like a champ without altering people as to the power of your hand. Just food for thought. I'm sure you're playing more than Aces and Kings.

I would say you are on the right track. It's better to win the smaller pot then have someone draw out on you. Because you're playing check-raising games, which involve free cards. I think at these limits, especially online, you have to get your money in the hand when you have the goods, after all - they call it no-foldem holdem for a reason.

Just something else to think about: never underestimate your type of table. Is it a loose free for all? Tighten up. Is it tight? Call and raise a few more hands. This can work at your advantage because you are always able to drastically switch gears to throw people off.

There is where multitabling can be dangerous - having to account for 4 different types of play at your 4 different tables.

G'luck.
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Old 12-17-04, 06:02 PM
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I think you are doing just the right thing. There was another post in another thread about keeping in mind the size of the pot in relation to the limit. A $6 pot at 50/1 is great -- if you can make consistently make $6 an hour at one of these tables, you are exceeding all but the most ambitious win targets.

Huge pots happen as a result of two things -- a fluke of the cards giving two (or more) players monster hands (quads beating an Ace-high flush, for example) or someone hitting after chasing something they shouldn't have been. The first one there's nothing you can do about, and the fewer of the second you are involved in the better.
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Old 12-17-04, 06:45 PM
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Thanks guys. Stuff to think about.
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Old 12-17-04, 07:15 PM
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It's good to play every primetime hand you have hard. I find that slowplaying on .5/1 is just silly and I think every player who slowplays 2 pair or sets vs my tptk... lol they win at best 1 bet from me, but if I check call river they get squat .

Try throwing in a few more drawing hands into your starting hand requirements (for multihanded pots)... often if you hit your draw, the other players won't notice and will pay you off 3 or 4 BB more .

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Old 12-17-04, 07:34 PM
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... decreased profit.

This is of course a matter of style of play. And if you are willing to muck it if you get most of the way there and pot odds don't justify seeing to the river, this might be fine. But the profit I eek out at these tables comes from players who throw in more drawing hands, then don't hit, while I'm busy pounding away at my (admittedly rare) premium hands.
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