CB: General theory question

[Invigilator]

Things have been going well lately. I did a PT analysis and adjusted some things in my game.

During this turnaround, My CB rate has got to be about 100%

I am sure there are times not to, but when?

Could you guys and gals give me some examples of times you would open the pot for a standard raise, not get reraised, but also not CB on the flop?

[Zybomb]

Very flop and opponent dependent

2 examples follow

- Try not to CB against more than 2 opponents that often, unless it's A super dry board/a board that isnt likely to have hit anyone i.e 622

- You raise 2nd position with 66 and the CO and button call. The flop comes TJQ. It's just too likely that you are either beat, or opponents will call on some sort of draw... and you are OOP so you are put to a tough decision on the turn (double barrelling a large bet if you put opponent on a draw or shutting down and perhaps letting a draw steal)

[MAYHEM45]

In position against one opponent, I'm CBing 99% of the time.

[Talking Poker]

-Multiple opponents
-You are OOP
-The board is very draw heavy
-You completely missed the flop and have no draw.

I just listed four criteria. It wouldn't necessarily take ALL FOUR to make me not CB, but it would take me at least two. Generally, I'd say that if three of the above are true, I'll likely not CB.

Like anything else, you can't really put "rules" into place for this, but I think this is a pretty decent guideline, and it's simple to understand.

You could also add in things about your images, like:
-You have an overly aggressive image

Or things about your opponents:
-Villain is a huge calling station and rarely folds postflop.

Those could go in the list above too, but I think the first four are a good start.

[Wes]

There are spots where I do think auto cbetting in position is a leak.

[Zybomb]

Good post -- I also used to think along these lines in the above example and often played it as you suggested. The problem was I found that often I would simply give an opponent free cards and he would pair up later on in the hand, and I wind up kicking myself for not cbetting (when its so likely opponent missed flop). Yes I realize it's only 28% that opponent will pair the turn or river but after seeing it multiple times I began to rethink my strategy and began to bet these type of flops with AK type hands often again. What about TWO opponents. I think with two its one of the rare times that Im MORE like to CBet (since there could be 4 live cards potentially and its unlikely anyone hit this flop) What's your take on everything here?

[Wes]

I used to think that giving free cards was a major pitfall, but not so much anymore. Generally, if a bet is solely to protect myself from 6 outs, I think it is a bad bet. Certainly I'm not saying that checking with AK on a T44 rainbow flop to be an automatic play against 100% of opponents, but just automatically doing it because you raised preflop seems foolish to me.

Like, people apply this concept on the turn when they check behind with weak made one pair hands, but they don't do it on the flop because everyone loves cbetting, even if it will lead to worse decisions for more money than if they didn't.

[Zybomb]

Another Question I wanted to bring up based on this statement (because I include this as well in my game)

Would this include not CBetting AT on a A83 rainbow flop?

[Wes]

AT probably like 100% of the time. It's almost always best + people call with worse a lot. Also not cbetting AT just lends itself to making your range almost all bluffs.