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			PokerStars Game #2837082247: Tournament #13822562, Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (600/1200) - 2005/10/18 - 21:49:05 (ET) Table '13822562 130' Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: Skoey24 (20710 in chips) Seat 2: McNugent (36213 in chips) Seat 3: clyjoe (17611 in chips) Seat 4: SNRFAN (27484 in chips) Seat 5: KaNyEeZy (19695 in chips) Seat 6: wheeljohn (6570 in chips) Seat 7: oneal7 (30064 in chips) Seat 8: mountainice (6002 in chips) Seat 9: zion1 (23666 in chips) Skoey24: posts the ante 75 McNugent: posts the ante 75 clyjoe: posts the ante 75 SNRFAN: posts the ante 75 KaNyEeZy: posts the ante 75 wheeljohn: posts the ante 75 oneal7: posts the ante 75 mountainice: posts the ante 75 zion1: posts the ante 75 zion1: posts small blind 600 Skoey24: posts big blind 1200 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to McNugent [7d 7c] McNugent: calls 1200 clyjoe: folds SNRFAN: folds KaNyEeZy: folds wheeljohn: folds oneal7: folds mountainice: folds zion1: raises 3600 to 4800 Skoey24: folds McNugent: calls 3600 *** FLOP *** [Ad Kc 7h] zion1: bets 4800 McNugent: calls 4800 *** TURN *** [Ad Kc 7h] [8c] zion1: bets 6000 McNugent: calls 6000 *** RIVER *** [Ad Kc 7h 8c] [6h] zion1: bets 7991 and is all-in McNugent: calls 7991 *** SHOW DOWN *** zion1: shows [9s Ts] (a straight, Six to Ten) McNugent: shows [7d 7c] (three of a kind, Sevens) McNugent said, "OMG" zion1 collected 49057 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 49057 | Rake 0 Board [Ad Kc 7h 8c 6h] Seat 1: Skoey24 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 2: McNugent showed [7d 7c] and lost with three of a kind, Sevens Seat 3: clyjoe folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: SNRFAN folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: KaNyEeZy folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: wheeljohn folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: oneal7 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: mountainice (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: zion1 (small blind) showed [9s Ts]  and won (49057) with a straight, Six to Ten This is the tourny ive been in top 18 for about an hour and a half- I KNOW i slowplayed it - CAN U BLAME ME? every call i made i was like okay theres no big draws he can have - nothing i have to push him off- lemme make all i can off this. seriously has anyone seen this many bad beats in one day look at all my bad beat posts lately - how am i supposed to win ? 
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			Not gonna flame, I don't think you deserve it, and I saw all the other beats. But surely you at least raise the turn. If he's on a draw you make him pay to hit it and if he has a pretty big hand he probably pays you off.
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			but i played with this guy for over an hour - i was 90% sure it was a complete bluff, almost any other player i woulda been pushin back thinkin they had a strong hand like AK anyway and would get a solid call, this guy i was pretty darn sure would fold to any raise.
		 
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			you got greedy... I rather win a 15 or 20K pot than lose a 40K pot.
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			Bingo.  I understand the reason for the slowplay, but you're not allowed to complain about a bad beat when not ONCE did you give him an opportunity to fold.
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			me 2- but think about it - I'd rather win a 40k pot, than a 20k pot, WHEN he has 5% to make his hand from the flop , and 12% for the river - It makes calculated sense to take that chance, in the long run trying to win the 40k pot would work out  way in the +EV.
		 
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			I pop it on the turn also... here's why. You had the mother of all flops. Youh it a set and an Ace AND a King also hit the board....there is a HUGE possibility that this player has hit top pair, maybe top two, etc. Meaning he is GOING to pay you off. This is one of the times I fast play, depsite the lack of logical draws on the flop
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