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Old 04-13-08, 09:45 PM
melioris melioris is offline
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so there are a lot of problems with the calculations involved in pokerEV graphs. The difference in Sklansky bucks vs total winnings is misleading. But yeah, you are probably running bad.

The measurement of value is the difference of your SD winnings vs total winnings. You are losing about $100 over 4.2K hands, which is 400BB. Assuming you are playing 6-max, if you folded every SB and BB you would be losing 980 BB (1.4 BB per orbit at $0.1/0.25 for 700 orbits), so you are +540BB in that comparison.

A lot of people, particularly the folks at 2+2, will like your non-SD monies to be positive and will tell you it is a major leak if it is not. They are wrong. The relationship between those two lines is a function of your style of play, postflop aggression, AND table selection. Yes, if you are value betting thin, aggressive post flop, and bluffing then it is likely to lower your SD winnings a little (or not change it at all) while increasing greatly your non-SD winnings. But most people discount (or don't think about) that if you are a disciplined practitioner of table selection, it will increase your SD winnings while decreasing (maybe into negative territory) your non-SD winnings.

Lets think about how table selection relates to the differences in these two lines. If you are sitting at good tables, with lots of loose passives, then your non-SD will run downward as you should be almost always trying to get to SD with marginal hands, discounting FE when sizing bets and only betting for value. If the fish are passive, I will give up when faced with resistance. Clearly you do not want to be bluffing or trying to get your fish to fold better hands, you will be showing down weak hands and taking the fish to value-town every chance you get. This will affect how these two lines relate.

One problem with depending upon SDs for the source of your winnings is that you are more prone to cycles of running bad. So it could be that you are running bad, but I would wager that you are also not playing optimum either. I am not saying that to be a dick, but when one runs bad one tends to become less aggressive, more results orientated, and less thinking. How many tables are you playing? Play less. Seriously, I have taken that advice recently and it has made a world of difference in my game.
 

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