Using position to represent strength?

[eddo31]

i think that in order for this play to work you have to raise preflop, and then fire at it again on the flop. i dont think that just betting or check raising the flop is necessarily enough to take this down. showing postflop agression here may be wasted because you did not lead into it by three betting it preflop.

theoretically, this play can work with any two cards, and you dont necessarily have to have a hand even as good as AQ. if you can effectively represent a big hand when you are holding absolute trash, then you should try this more often. yes, you will get called sometimes, and have to sheepishly showdown 93o often, but advertising isnt the worst thing in the world. if you can throw this into your game, then it is like adding a good changeup to a fastball pitcher. it throws everyone else off, and they never know what you have.

[Defendant]

Just for clarification, Im talking NL here, so I can put a lot more pressure out there on the flop. Also, I think the flat call of a 3-4 blind raise does represent some strength, and reraising here would not be in order IMO.

Defendant

[eddo31]

i agree that the flat call does represent strength as well, but from the blind it isnt as significant. if you were in early position (not in a blind), and you did that, then i think it shows more strength. from the blind i am conflicted as to whether it shows an attempt to not get run over in your blind, or it could show strength.

i just dont think that it is nearly as effective from the blind as it is from third position. i understand that it is different in no limit, but it is also riskier and that has to be taken into account.

[n9ne]

this forum is like one big anomally



for some reason i dont have much motivation to help my opponents become better players

[Talking Poker]

So........ why are you here?

The purpose of threads like this isn't just to help your opponents (which is a ridiculous notion in itself).... it's to generate discussion which will help all of us - including you. By participating, you should be able to learn something and maybe even improve your own game.

[Talking Poker]

When the situation is right (depending on my opponents and a number of other things), I like showing strength from the blinds after a rag flop.

The play you described is ok, but one I like much better here, is a check raise... That also gives you the opportunity to change your mind and get off it without spending any more money, but if all goes according to plan (check to the guy in late position and he bets out what looks like a steal with overcards), it's a great opportunity to throw out a nice raise and take the pot down.

Don't try this against a weak opponent, of course. He needs to understand what you are telling him, which is that you have him in bad shape and his big cards probably aren't even outs.

[stussy2k]

I think if i were to miss a flop with AQ in SB, and i bet preflop, its a guarenteed bet on the flop. If i get a reraise, then i'll muck it, but if you think most people that are involved in your hand missed, its a good time to pick up the pot.