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[Invigilator]

Yikes!

I don't want to start a fight between you two.

Remember, I'm Mr. peace and love.

"I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony. I'd like to buy the world a [product placement] and keep it company. La la la la la......... la la la la la......."

Pokerwise, understanding that this person is still LAG, but derserving of some close attention is usefull. I just wanted to be sure that I was not misreading him, since I had a hard time coming out on top until I hit that top set.

[stormswa]

trust me you are not "starting" anything between us.

I may be a losing player but its not for the reasons you suggest, its not because I don't understand the game or what I'm doing. Its because unlike you I don't try to build a bankroll, I deposit money and if I lose it oh well. Yes I deposit $500 and play 2/4 NL because I don't have a running bankroll. If I want to play a game I deposit and play it. Now with the new U.S. laws I have come to realization that I can not do that as easy anymore so I have decided to try to build this time around. My losing has never been because I play bad its because of bankroll management, if you want advice on bankroll management I would not make a single post because I don't bankroll manage. BUT I have never had a problem at the tables, I just like to deposit enough to play the game I want. Remember not everyone is working on building bankrolls. here I will give you a little insight in what a "losing" player has done last 3 years. I would make a small deposit of $100 or so and go play the game I want to play If I make some money at that game I would move up and if I lost it I would only lose $100 that I invested, yes I might lose 1k total but my initial investment was only $100. I would do this over and over because I was playing for enjoyment value only. It got to the point where it kinda aggravated me but I asked myself why am I playing poker, do I want to deal with the stress of trying to grind it up or am I just playing for fun. My answer to that was I was just playing for fun and the little money I lost for entertainment was worth it. Like I said things have changed while I was away from the forum and my feeling for the game has changed. I took some time off poker and now I have a new outlook on it and I actually do want to grind it up now.

when I make this $500 deposit next week I don't plan on ever depositing again, I have been datamining .10/.25 for about a month now (the time I have been on break) and I plan on coming back ready to grind it up. I have even decided not to play more then 2 tables so I can totally concentrate on my game. You said a month or so ago at bodog that I'm better then you remembered, the truth is you took my thoughtless posts as how I play, and that is just not true. This forum has helped my game alot and even though I used to act like I ignored that advice I really didnt, well the bankroll managment advice I did ignore. I dont in any way concider myself a great player but I do feel like im a little above average player and can beat up to 1/2. I plan on having a strict 20x buy in rule to play a certain level now. Since im kinda starting over as of next week I'm wiping the slate clean including my pokertracker database. I have the skills and the knowledge to do this I just have to apply them and avoid tilting and moving up where my bankroll can not handle.

as for Pokerace Hud numbers being easy, hell no like I said a lot of things are dependent. All my examples were just generic examples, like you I had something to do tonight and didnt have time to go into realistic numbers so gave basic one that would show a point. Yes a board like 942 or whatever I said is very likely to hit a Lag player, very likely, I'm not saying check it but if you get re-raise then it is very very very likely that lag could of made 2 pair raising with something like 4-2 and you should be able to put him on that range of hands. Maybe I could of explained it better, you love to take what I say and over analyze it and that's cool but give me a break. I will take more time on my posts though so I dont seem like im giving bad advice.

I can adjust to players playing styles a lot, if I don't explain something totally on here you get the idea that I'm giving bad advice. It's the correct advice I just don't take the time needed to explain my points which I admit is totally my fault and something I need to work on more. I really need to work on strategic posts a lot better and take the time to make sure I'm making my point more clearly.


also his opponents numbers are going to be alot higher then yours becuase he isnt playing high limits. Remember he is playing low limits so aggression numbers per street are about 4 ALOT, like you said your numbers are less then 4 but the average low limit players are greater then 4 alot. I Just looked at one of my datamining tables and the numbers are great then 6, of course at like 3/6 they are going to be alot tighter. You need to adjust to the level you are playing, yes at low limits players will often limp and then go crazy on later streets, it is really not uncommon at lower limits. Limp/bet/bet/bet happens alot more then you would think, remember these players are not great which is why they are playing such low limits. Hell i just opened a table with dude with 300+ hands with 0.00 pfr and like a high as hell per street aggression, that is why i dont use total aggression at the levels I will be playing because I want to know where he is aggressive. I tag them as loose/tight/aggressive.

[PunkyChikn]

Sorry if I missed something here (and of course not to interrupt), but does Raistlin = BrianSWA?

[Invigilator]

not to speak for the man, but yep!

[Talking Poker]

Ugh. Can someone please translate/summarize that for me? Someone.... anyone....

OK, never mind - I skimmed it. After the "blah blah blah blah blah" 90% of it (again, I'm not trying to be a dick, but Brian, we've been through this same thing with you time after time after time after time where you go from taking poker seriously to playing like an idiot and tilting off your entire roll to never playing again to playing but just for fun to taking poker seriously to (continue loop indefinitely))... Anyway, after all that, I noticed you actually got back on topic in the last paragraph.

I just want to make sure... You do realize that
> = greater then and not less then, right?

Also, you do realize that someone with an aggression factor of 2 (for example) is less aggressive than someone with an aggression of 4.5, right?

Cause, what you are saying seems to imply otherwise. I mean, for you to classify someone with a 2 AF as aggressive when you say yourself that the average player is greater than a 4... well, that doesn't really make sense. At all.

But whatever... I was only posting in this thread out of concern for Invigilator. And like you do at every opportunity you get, you've turned it into a thread about you... and honestly (again, not trying to be mean here, just stating a fact), I'm not really interested.

That said, if you really do decide to take poker seriously and play well and win gazillions of dollars, PLEASE, by all means, do it. I'll be the first to congratulate you when you do. But along the way, you need to cut those of us who know you best a little bit of slack... I mean, we've been down this road (numerous times) before, so it's only natural for us to expect the same results.

[stormswa]

yes sir I did know that 4.5 is higher then 2 all I was trying to say was at lower stakes players are more aggressive. Not because they are better but because they are horrible players that push on 2nd,3rd and no pairs. anyway this is getting old lets move on.

[Talking Poker]

So tell me again how this guy is a LAG by your definition then, when he's less than half as aggressive as the average player at these stakes (by your definition) and is limping/cold calling more pots preflop than he's raising?

Rereading what you wrote (when you misquoted me as being LESS aggressive than I was saying I am), I think you might be mixing up "loose" with "aggressive."