4.40 180man...hero stack to zero...this is bad (be prepared)

[eejit101]

one reraise him all in or something, he will still call and u will still lose both.

thats called being dealt suckouts for having a big head thinking you play "perfect tourney poker"

[Wes]

Usually when I flop the nuts I try to get maximum value from the hand, but since I don't play tournament poker I guess maximizing value doesn't apply.

[Reel Deal]

I should have said I'm happy for him to also call the shove since we know we're ahead and there's a good chance one of them is calling a shove. What about those times we flat call and a brink hits the turn and villain shuts down? I don't know that a flat call gets the max value you're focused on BL.

In any event, there is something to be said for small ball in tourney poker... but I get your point about maximizing value, even though you seem to have difficulty making a point without being a sarcastic little twit.

[Wes]

Just saying we ran into the one hand that is going to call a shove. All other hands that lead here, like a weak pair trying to "find out where it is", isn't going to put much more money into the pot at least on the flop. Plus, there is a player behind us so hopefully we'll try the action that will least discourage action from him.

[Reel Deal]

Understood. I'm just think that maximizing value isn't the only factor in a tourney decision.