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Old 02-27-05, 05:43 PM
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Well, it wasn't really a 'good' call since he had the best hand going in. But, like i said just before i saw this post - i dont mind getting a little lucky.

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Understood... it's just a call I couldn't make. I'd rather try to get lucky when I'm a lot more confident I have the best hand... especially considering you guys were basically even stacked and there was no money in the pot when you made the call.

BTW - my questioning the call is by no means meant as an insult... I don't think it's that bad... Just was wondering how other people owuld have played the hand.
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BTW... PokerNovice has graciously agree to continue ChipFish's tradition by putting a bounty on his head for the TPFI3.

Props for that.....
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It was good playing with you guys, even though I got knocked out early.
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Old 02-27-05, 07:43 PM
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I will have to side with TalkingPoker on this... the call was not a call that I would have made. I can't imagine playing solid poker for the whole tournament to risk an all in bet with just KJ. At best, I would need to have an A (real good kicker) in my hand or a pocket pair.

I know that luck is always involved, but you can't rely on luck when you make your decisions. As a good friend tells me all the time, "Decisions, not Results."

Bdawg, I wonder if you have second thoughts about that decision, even though the results were good? Would you make the call again?
Can you describe your thought process to make the call?
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My thoughts on the hand (for whatever little value they have (now)):

First my thoughts on the call: Most previous all in's preflop, only a few that I remeber heads up, were not even considered by the other player except for one all in was Ax vs Ax(my initial i think). Not in a million years would I have considered calling that either, and from what I observed playing Bdawg, neither would he. Reraising or initially raising, he's very likely to get all in, which is very understandable, but not by calling. Was it the monotony of the game that caused that call or the fact that you had two face cards, or was I bluffing more than I thought I was? I'm also not insulting your play at all, really just wondering your thoughts on that hands, the whole rest of the tournament seemed very logically and skillfully played by you.

My raise reasoning: The game had been playing pretty tight, and not many preflop all in's were happening. A7 is a hand I never really want to play, so I figured i'd overbet it. I was almost sure he wouldn't play a pocket pair by calling the flop, so figured I'd either lose the tourney to a trap, which i thought unlikely, or get a fold.

Do you guys agree with the preflop all in by me?

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While I don't think that the raise was the best move, I don't think it was a bad move either. Seeing how conservative the play became, A7 would be a good hand to steal the blinds without worrying too much about a call. The only hands that I would see calling that would be Ax and any pocket pair (preferably not too low).

In this situation, I like your aggressive play and you did get all your money in the pot (and his) with the best hand.
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