Best Baseball Player of all Time

[melioris]

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I don't know baseball, but can comment on the soccer comments thus far. C. Ronaldo isn't overrated, he is one of the better players in the world at this moment. But he is a situational and positional player who requires a talented team around him to shine. He can't hold a candle to players like Zidane who anchored teams and made all their teammates play better. Oh, and C. Ronadlo is a Portuguese douchebag that likes to be sodomized by goats.

Pele is one of the greatest for sure, but part of the reason he was so good was that the skill and tactical awareness of the average player at that time was incredibly poor. He would still dominated if he played now, but nowhere near the level that he did back then. If it wasn't for the coke, Maradona would have been the greatest ever.

Beckenbauer was a titan, he revolutionized the game more than just about any other player and certainly deserves to be in the conversation.

But for my money, if i was picking an all-time team, my first two picks would be Zidane and then Makelele. Soccer is all about creating and managing space, and those two players control the field from box to box better than any other midfield combination in the history of the game. And this was during, arguably, the most talent rich era the sport has ever seen.


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[Kurn]

YOU FUCKING HATERS SUCK

But not as much as anything connected to BC.

After the Music City Miracle, Flutie said "If I had plaYED, WE'D HAVE WON."

Really, shrimp? I wasn't aware you played on the KO team? Johnson drove them for the go ahead score at the end of the game.

Flutie's been a "Me first" guy his entire career.

Besides, he went to BC so he sucks by definition.

[Kurn]

Hard to argue with anyone on basketball and Hockey. Clearly MJ and #99 were the greatest ever at their sports.

And Wes hit the nail on the head with Football. Too many different jobs to pick one, but being an ex-LB myself, I'll cast my vote for Lawrence Taylor. I can't imagine how good he would've been had he been drug-free.

Now to baseball.

I must disagree on Ruth. Yes he could pitch and hit, but I can't pick him as the best ever for two reasons.

1) Offensively, he was a paradigm shift. Pitchers of his era had no clue how to handle a guy who could knock it out of the park on every swing. I can no more call Babe the greatest offensive baseball player based on his stats than I can call Wilt the greatest NBA player based on his.

2) More important, nobody pre-1947 can be considered the greatest since they competed against watered down talent. No hitter who never had to face Satchell Paige in his prime can be considered the best, no pitcher who never had to pitch to the fearsome Josh Gibson can be the best.

Thus my vote for the greatest MLB player is Willie Mays.

[drewjax]

FY (lame ass) P


And I'm pretty sure if you were in his shoes, you'd have a bit of a chip on your shoulder too. The guy leaves college as the most prolific QB in history, and then has everybody not even letting him play up to his capabilities. Early on they would basically let him throw like 15 times a game on 3rd and long.?.? uh ha, THAT makes sense. They even tried to completely change the way he threw, again as if he just scrambled around for 4 years.

So thats all you got? One quote after a loss like that? After leading the team to a 10-5 record but gets replaced by the senile owner....

I'll take that shrimp over an arrogant know it all any day.

sigh

have a nice day

[Wes]

lol flutie isn't even close to being the 2nd best buffalo bills qb in their history.

[jillaj]

Drew are you related to him or do you just have a crush on him?