best way to build a Bankroll with 10$

[BrianSwa]

I see your point Aeq, and by no means do I think he dosent give great advice. Has given me terrific advice in the past, I just dont think he was being overly mean. But like you said thats just how I saw it, getting way off track from origional purpose of the post. John is winning a book for sure

[Aequitas58]

Good. I hope he does.

Oops, is that another post?

[bigjohnstud2o]

Please lets not subject this thread to that kind of talk. Im just looking for some good advice. Im ut to 30 playing the .05/.10 nl tables about to call it a night. i will let everyone know how it goes. 20 more minutes for the night

[BrianSwa]

That talk? welcome to the forum john If you think that is bad should of been here a couple months back! Anywho good job on that roll!

[ChipFish]

He asked a silly question regarding his bankroll size.
I was merely guiding him away from tourneys...
I also likened playing tourneys with a $10 bankroll to that of finding a quarter and a slot machine, or putting all of it on one hand....
Basically it would be hope and prayer... (and even that wouldn't be enough).

Was it a personal attack? No.
Each time he whines that I pick on him and must not like him, he forgets to ask these questions: Did ChipFish even look to see who posted this? Does ChipFish care one way or the other? Did ChipFish actually give me good advice?
Does the good advice change if ChipFish had of given me kind words of encouragement rather than blatently keeping me from doing something stupid with my bankroll?

And Lou: Question for you.
Is there any similarity between the slots and all-in statement, and using your entire bankroll to play a multi?

You're a smart guy.
I'll just answer for you.
A) YES. All 3 are completely determined by luck.
And to answer the next question, No. Multi's are not luck-based.
But there is the element of luck that allows 1-2-or3 outers to hit.

[ChipFish]

OH.... And goodluck Bigjohnstud....
It appears you have chosen wisely.

[bigjohnstud2o]

I was being serious. I didnt think it was a silly question. Maybe you did. If thats the reason then i can the the silly answer

[Aequitas58]

MTTs aren't based on luck?

Funny. Dan Harrington and other tournament / poker pros disagree with you. Skill takes you a long way, but you need you get lucky and win your fair share of coinflips.

You're a smart guy. You knew that.

And regarding all that other stuff: your advice, in my opinion, was shitty.

[ChipFish]

Let's add the word that should have been there all along but I omitted by mistake. That should make more sense now. My bad.
However, this is the point I was trying to make....
Bad Luck = No more bankroll.
Understand the advice now?

[Aequitas58]

In the future, when you find yourself backpeddling, instead of "my bad," use the Latin counterpart: "mea culpa." At least you'll sound smarter.

It's late, I have to get some sleep. See you all tomorrow.

[johnbaker]

well ive had some success with stars.... doing a lot of differnet things.. i got 10 bux from lou, got it up to 50 by playing heads up matches, then i won 1st out of 2000 in a 1$ entry tourney so i had 400 more to play with.... then i used that to pay off debts and started over with 3 bux, playign 1 cent / 2 cent blinds, built it up, played a combination of low no limit cash games and sit n gos until i had 50 again. then i just stuck w ith .25/.5 no limit, and have built it up to $350. just do whatever youre best at, but at low stakes. its a pain to build up in low LIMIT, i highly reccomend low stakes no limit cash games.

[BrianSwa]

well as I posted in another thread I started with $25 and now have over $500 starting at those low limits. Im not big fan of low limits, much rather be playing 2/4 but if you have to start somewhere then its not bad. It can be done but its very boring!!

[ChipFish]

I agree that the low-limits must be boring.
Heck, I would love to be playing $100/200 NL...
But let's face facts....
Unfortunately, that's what alot of people refuse to do.
They refuse to face facts....
They continue to play in games in which they are not properly rolled for.

Some of them win.
Many more lose.

If I were to go broke, (which will only happen when I take a shot) then I know that I would be unable to play the penny games to work my roll back.
I would put money aside and re-deposit a starting roll.

I have alot of respect for those that are willing to grind out a roll at the pennytables, without risking their roll in higher limits....
These are the players that have the "dedication" to learning the game...
These are the players to have on your buddy list, and to avoid in your games at all costs... They know the value of a Dollar.

[BrianSwa]

I hate micro limits!!!!, I love 2/4. Im actully playing 2/4 right now with a little under the must for the level because it is the game I feel most comfortable in. Maybe its because that is the game when I go to the casino that I play, I do keep a very close eye on my current bankroll and I do have a set lose amount that I have to abide by or I drop down levels. So far I havent had to drop down and im up about $250 in last 2 days and slowly building back roll before my $500 blowout.

[johnbaker]

grinding out 1/2 cent no limit isnt a reason to respect someone... or fear them... it just means theyre more patient and/or more broke than the average gambler.... if they have a 1000$ bankroll and they play penny stakes, thats not someone u should fear... its someone who probably shouldnt be playing poker

[ChipFish]

There's a big difference between someone who plays 2 years slowly working their way up from penny stakes to even the $2/4 level.
Let's say they played 400k hands on the way.
He is very dedicated and patient and does not jump levels until he is properly rolled.



Now Player B has only played for 4 months and bounced his way from his initial deposit of $50 to the $3/6 level and has a current bankroll of $1200.
He has played 95k hands lifetime...
He takes frequent chances and has played as high as $15/30 at times.

Who do you fear more?
I personally would be more leary of Player A.