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07-22-05, 01:09 PM
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Not picking on you ... but this:
"Good MTT players can place in the money more then 50% of the time." Is wrong.
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07-22-05, 01:11 PM
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ok
what would you concider a good MTT player would place? Honest question really want answer. Because even at say 40% he could still make money in long run dont you think. Not saying this is the road I would recomend someone taking, but do you think it is possible for a good MTT player to do? |
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07-22-05, 01:18 PM
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To be honest w/ you, I don't know the ITM percentage for "seasoned" professionals... or even top amateurs, for that matter...
But think about it - 50% ITM? No way. I read on RGP that MTT players have to get used to long stretches w/out reaching the money. It's the nature of the beast. Of course, one good MTT, and you are back in black. It only takes 1 tournament out of 20 to pull up that ROI.
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07-22-05, 02:26 PM
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Look at Daniel Negreanu at this yrs WSOP...
He is prolly one of the best players in any tourney he enters and he played 20+ of the events and only cashed in 1 or 2 of them. You could go months without a cash in a MTT but then you will go on a tear where you make 4-5 FTs in a month. Look at Jesus, Siedel, Cunningham... Didnt really hear much from them till the WSOP and Jesus made 4 or 5 FTs while Siedel and Cunningham won bracelets and made several FTs. |
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07-22-05, 02:45 PM
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One of the reasons I don't play MTTs is because I have such a good record at them. 2/7 on FTs and I won one of them.
Well, tonight I am eyeing the freeroll on Paradise and the 1:30 am limit O8 tourney on PS, so that number could change.
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07-22-05, 02:56 PM
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agreed
I agree with all you that people do go through long streaks of no cashing. I agree my 50% was high but the question I would like discussed about is...."Is it possible to build a bankroll through torney play" . Now im not talking about taking $50 into a $50 torney and cashing big time, Im talking about taking your $50 and enter some LOW buy in tornies and build from there moving up levels everytime you hit a milestone.
Do you think it is possible to do this? |
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07-22-05, 05:56 PM
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My point with the $50 initial bankroll is, if that's all you can afford to put into poker, then you might as well play on play money tables. If you can't afford to lose money, don't gamble. (I know...poker isn't 'gambling' for guys with experience...but for new players it very much is like blackjack or other casino games, because you are going to have to take a few lumps to learn).
Second point with the MTT, if you plan on making money playing just tourneys, you have to finish final table a few times to make it worthwhile. It's simply not good enough to just make the money. If you make the money in say 30% of all MTT tourneys you play, and have no final tables, you'll more than likely be losing money or breaking even. There's a good reason why the majority of pros all play side games. The only pro that I can think of that only plays MTT is Chris Ferguson. Maybe TJ Cloutier does as well since he likes playing tournies so much. Last edited by Windbreaker; 07-22-05 at 06:13 PM. |
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