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10-31-04, 08:32 PM
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yes a fold here would be extremely difficult, I would almost only fold here if i suspected a set. I've only ran into an overpair in this situation once in my NL cash game playing, except it was my KK vs AA. I was shortstacked preflop with blinds at .5/1, and a little pissed because my QQ didnt hold up against an idiotic all in preflop play with AK. I had $12 or so left, so i raised it to $6 in late position (I had caused a Helmouth worthy scene when the guy rivered his ace vs my QQ, so I knew everyone would expect me to be tilted). the AK jackass called from the button with AQ, and my friend in the big blind reraised me 8 more. I knew he mustve had something huge, probably JJ-AA, but I just didnt want to believe that he had AA at that point. The pot was pretty huge anyways, so entering as a 4 to 1 dog would give me the appropriate pot odds to call even if he did have aces. I called my last 5.50 or 6 or whatever it was with KK, the AQ guy folded face up and thought it was an epic laydown... what a jackass. anyways the reraiser DID have AA, and i ended up losing the pot. I didnt feel bad at all though, for a couple of very important reasons:
1) I put the AQ guy on just that; somethign like AJ, AQ, or AK. This makes the chances of AA half as likely as normal, so I basically HAD to call the reraiser (statistically) 2) When i lose a pot when i put ALL my money in with the best hand, i cause scenes. When i lose because i misplayed a hand, i dont care at all because theres no one to blame but myself. the first reason is probably what convinced me to call, because for all i knew the reraiser could have QQ, and with an ace PROBABLY out of the equation, the chances of someone having AA was around 500 to 1. the reraiser is pretty tight/aggressive and if he thought i was overplaying my hand from the button, it would make perfect sense for him to reraise with QQ from the big blind. looking back, i probably would have called anyways just because i didnt want to believe he had the aces (even if i had not gotten the clue that the other guy had an ace), because I wasnt good enough to fold KK preflop back then. It was a good learning experience though. -jB |
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#4
11-01-04, 02:54 PM
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I think Danny's play would work only in live tourneys, particularly if you have a strong reputation. I would never make this play in an online game where it seems like people will play with about anything suited.
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11-02-04, 02:50 AM
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you are probably right that this play would work better live than online, but i think that you can pull it off in either setting. if your table stays together for a while, obviously the chances of getting a good read on someone go up, and that makes this play that much more profitable.
plus, the chances of someone else hitting a higher flush, with only a three flush on board are not that good. it happens, bu tnot that often. |
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#6
11-02-04, 04:01 PM
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it doesnt matter whether you play suited connectors online or in person, the reason you play them in the first place is to catch an unlikely flop and get a lot of value out of a little investment. the 'suited connector theory' is based on the math that says how often you will catch a monster flop to break a monster hand. statistics dont change from online to live play, so neither should your play. even if people do play 'anything suited' online, you probably arent going to run into a higher flush or flush draw with suited connects, and you're looking to hit a straight or 2 pair or something like that on the flop anyway. making a flush with low suited connectors isnt very profitable unless you're heads up and you put your opponent on a monster hand, like 2 pair, a set, or a straight. suited connectors being suited isnt what makes them so great; its just another draw to fall back on if you dont hit the flop.
-jB |
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