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Old 08-08-05, 02:00 PM
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We need more information. Is this the 5th hand of the tournament, with 1000 out of 1000 players left? Are we on the bubble with 51 players left and 50 making it into the money? Are we at the final table with 4 players left and the prize money increasing significantly with each player eliminated?

These are all very different situations, obviously. People usually don't get upset about bluffing into dry side pots until the bubble (which is not always correct, btw) or later on..... It is a huge mistake at the final table though, IMO.

My favorite example of this was at a home game, when we were down to 3 players (on the bubble). Another guy and I had the third player all in. We checked the flop. On the turn he bet into the dry side pot, I folded, and he showed FIVE HIGH. He had 45o with no draw. The all in player survived, instead of me eliminating her with my pair of 7s or so, and I ended up finishing on the bubble.

This caused a huge discussion that ended up never being resolved, because the bluffer simply wasn't a good enough (competant enough) player to understand how bad of a play this was. His logic, that he insisted was correct and I wasn't intelligent enough to understand, was that he could win the main pot by: 1. Betting and 2. Having me fold my hand and 3. Catching a 4 or a 5 on the river and 4. Having his Pair of 4s or 5s be good against the all in person.

Obviously, that's ridiculous. The odds of all off that happening are astronomical. Had he checked it down instead, he would have been guaranteed at least second place prize money when I would have eliminated the other player. If he really though his pair of 4s or 5s would be good (*if* he "made his hand" on the river), he should have waited until then to bet. This would still be a bad play, of course, but the play he made on the turn was simply one of the worst I have ever seen. A 5 high bluff at a dry side pot. Gotta love it.
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