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Old 02-24-06, 05:32 PM
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I can't believe it either - they HAVE to take all the money or its no deterrent. I dont see how people don't get that?

If the only thing that they took was money won by the proven cheating (i.e. a tourney hit) - then they would have nothing to lose. Worst case - you get caught and you just lose what you wouldnt have won anyway. They have to clean out every penny of all accounts to send a message.

If someone is caught stealing - you dont just take back what they stole and call it even. You punish them - which serves as a deterrent to others.
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Old 02-24-06, 05:59 PM
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Agreed...People would just keep playing and playing under new names if all that would happen would be that the money they won from tourney win was taken....you have to take it all so that others wont do it.....i bet we have a few multi-accounters cashing out here soon before they get caught.....
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Old 02-24-06, 06:18 PM
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The link at the top of this thread is entertaining. My favorite so far is a high and mighty 2+2er misusing schadenfreude. And I don’t even speak german.

These young guns are exceptional players. But did their apparent lack of ethics result from being too successful too young? Clearly dropping out of school (high school or college) and playing poker was the better decision financially, but maybe they should have taken some time and spent some money on private education, akin to what young actors do when they achieve stardom and leave school (the smart ones at least).

Before internet, young poker players had to come up in the B&M card rooms. The last world-class players to do this are Ivey and Negreanu, maybe? I can’t imagine either of these players doing something like this, possibly because they were older-mid 20s-before they became hugely successful.

Now I don’t mean to suggest all young internet successful pros are cheaters, just that they need to be careful . They are getting poker experience at an unprecedented rate. In the BM days, poker experience and maturity were on a similar timescale. Not anymore. I don't know how they should deal with this discrepancy though.
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Old 02-24-06, 06:53 PM
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Elsewhere on 2+2, Zee confirms it is true, and offers a defense, denying any colluding or chip dumping.

What I wonder about – and assume Party must have considered – is what financial impact this crackdown will have. They've seized at least $140k in the past few days from a couple of very high profile players. They'll redistribute a portion (how much?) of that, but I have to imagine that Party will end up keeping a good chunk of it. On the other hand, they'll lose any future rake generated from these players, which is likely to be considerable.

Meanwhile, anyone else who has multiple accounts will immediately pull as much cash out as fast as they can. Will increased player confidence from the rest of the poker community make up for or exceed this?

It's nice to think that Party took this action because it was the right thing to do, but I'm sure these factors were a consideration as well.
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Old 02-24-06, 07:36 PM
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I wish I could think of some clever way to make fun of ZeeJackass's statement, but alas, even I am at a loss for words due to the sheer stupidity of it.

JJ and Zee really showed their immaturity in both of these scenarios. I can see why "outside" people think online poker/gambling is bad. Look at these fucking kids.
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