How I will manage to be the first player eliminated form the 2006 WSOP...

[GTDawg]

What would you do if you get dealt KK first hand?

In MP and you raise to 4xBB

Big blind min-reraises you

You re-raise back

BB pushes

TP...

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I wrote this kinda fast and that actually screams AA

But, ignoring the above, what would go through your mind if you get dealt KK on first hand? Is there anything that would happen to get you off of it preflop?

[Talking Poker]

Well, from what you described, I think a fold is in order (and pretty clear). I mean, at BEST, he's also got KK, but it's a lot more likely he's got AA, so I'll just fold and start off the tourney with 9100 chips or whatever (first raise to 200, his min reraise to 350, my rereraise (which I may not even make) to 900ish, and then he pushes for > 10x THAT). No big deal.

Like I said, I'm not going to throw all my money in (especially CALL it all in) with anything less than the nuts. Not early anyway. That's just stupid.

[ChipFish]

I kind of figured Kings would be the answer.

[eejit101]

yeah, but i dont think on day 1 TP will put himself all in preflop with anything other than aces, in anything over a 3 way all in pot. 4way, and your aces are behind to the table.

Saying that, i dont think TP should EVER go all in with aces in a game where alot of money is involved

[Kurn]

I don't care how many active players are in the pot, or even if its the first hand of the WSOP ME. If I EVER fold AA preflop*, take me out and shoot me.

* - Super-satellite bubble situation where my M > 20 is an exception.

[Talking Poker]

I don't care how many players are in the pot either, I'll GLADLY go all in (and even CALL all in) with the nuts in Hold'Em (barring those few satellite bubble situations, of course), and the nuts preflop is AA.

I can and will easily fold KK preflop under the right circumstances (see GTDawg's example), but I won't fold AA.

[Kurn]

In that specific situation I'd consider folding KK. I might even actually fold KK. On the other hand I have never folded KK preflop and I'd have to tune out Dan Harrington saying he doesn't believe there's anyone in the world smart enough to be correct in folding KK preflop.

[Boobie Lover]

Ugh, obviously you guys haven't read "Tournament Poker for Advanced Players". There is a situation in which to fold AA, even in a non-sattellite tourney.

It basically goes like like this.

Main event of the WSOP, you have a paltry 30,000 in chips and are in last place with five people remaining. There are four stacks have exactly one million chips. The first player just goes all-in, the second calls that, and so does a third. If you find AA here, it is much better here to fold than to call. You are almost guaranteed (unless a rare tie occurs) a big jump up in money from the 5th place now to 3rd place you could find yourself in. The expect value of folding here is much greater than that which could be earned from you moving up in chips.