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Old 10-22-04, 01:08 PM
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I believe that a long pause (trying to represent strength by thinking long) and then checking is an easy sign of weakness.
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Old 10-22-04, 01:16 PM
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If someone raises me and I have the best hand I'll usually do the old pause like i'm thinking hard about it, then smooth call and trap him after. Or if I'm trying to act like my hand is weak or when I'm running to the fridge or taking a piss is another time you might pause.
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Old 10-22-04, 07:16 PM
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Aye the Pause is an excellent tool.

If someone's taking there time making a bet they either lag or making a decision how much to raise.

It's also great to use against people who all in, when u have no intention to call but make them sweat it out :P
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Old 10-23-04, 02:08 AM
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I use the check/fold box only.... or the Fold box.... and lately the "check" box.
The fold box is obvious... I have no intention of staying in the hand...

As for the Check/fold, I like that because I have already decided to fold to any bet ahead of me.... I am hoping for a free card, However, if it is checked through me, and there is a bet behind me, I will re-evaluate, and then make a decision to stay in the hand or re-raise. ( I tend to lean on the re-raise side)

The "Check" box is nice, because if it checks through you, other players assume very quickly that you had the (Check/fold) buttion clicked.
I just had no intention of opening the betting, and will most likely call or re-raise if I so desire.

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i only use the check/fold box as well. i never use the other boxes.

i think that the pause in general is not much of a tell online, just because your opponent is just as likely to be playing multiple tables as anything else.
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in higher stakes games maybe.. but in lower stakes games, especially NL games, ESPECIALLY on partypoker, people pausing a while then raising means real strength... a quick bet usually means weakness
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WRONG.
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That is the best point in this thread so far, I have found myself guilty of doing just that and when people caught on it was costing me. I am very conscience of not doing that anymore while I will definatly watch for it in others.

The pause could be a lag in connection as well though, hhmm.
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Old 10-23-04, 09:30 AM
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I have also found players where a short pause before a bet is a bluff, when they bet strong hands fast.

I think the key is that this tell can ONLY be identified individually after watching a while. I agree with most that there are a host of other reasons someone would take a few seconds (or more) to act.

As far as getting rid of this tell in your own play, I agree with a couple of you that takeing the same amount of time before every action is a good idea.

A while back I was heads up at a single and I was doing well, picking up some pots with bluffs when I knew he didnt have it. Then after about ten minutes he started calling all my plays. I think it was that I was betting out quickly if I had something, and thinking (just for a second or two) if I was considering a bluff/semi-bluff. He didnt say anything but, the next day I read on RGP someone describing that exact situation, where I really thought he was talking about our tourney. So, I stopped doing that REALLY FAST and now just try not to act too quickly on a hand no matter what the situation.

Seeing how well I think it worked in that tournament, I think it can be used to set people up in certain situations (but only if they are paying attention).
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I think this so called tell isn't a tell at all since there a so many contributing factors to way a person is slow to make a desicion.
like:
-playing multible tables
- internet lag
-preoccuped with t.v. or surfing the net
-taking a piss or going to the fridge
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I agree it definetly is not a standard "every time someone takes 3 seconds, they are bluffing thing", but it can be if you see a trend in it, just like other betting tells.
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