Poker Lessons????

[Windbreaker]

I wouldn't take lessons unless we're talking about big money. Or if you won a satellite to a big tourney like the wsop main event, and needed some guidance cause you were just getting outplayed and dominated.

[Penguinfan]

And there lies the problem, I don't know if I am getting outplayed or just flat out unlucky. Everyone wants to think it's the latter in their own game, but like Mike says in Rounders (bows head for a moment in respect) "Why do the same five guys make it to the final table of the WSOP every year, what are they the luckiest 5 guys in Las Vegas" Now that is obviously not the case, but the seniment in still the same, are people who play for a living just the luckiest guys on the planet, or do they know things some of us never will unless we get taught?

[Windbreaker]

If you don't know if you're getting outplayed or not, then you are. If you're ahead by a bunch when the money goes in and lose, then that's just a bad beat. Usually you need to find the weaker players at your table, and try to work them over and avoid the players that you know are pros are just better players.

[Gutzz]

Why don't you post some hands that you play Pfan?

Cheers,

Gutzz

[Penguinfan]

Yes I am constantly getting beat when I have the best hand going in. In with the best of it, out with the worst of it. But perhaps I am going in as a slight favorite, and even though I am the favorite are they hands I shouldn't be calling all-ins with? Short stack goes all in and I have him covered with AK, he turns over QJ, yea I am the favorite, and AK is not a hand you throw away short handed, but is it a hand you call an all-in bet with, I mean your gonna lose almost half the time with it, but you can't just fold everytime a short stack pushes in. So again I am not sure if this is being outplayed or just unlucky. Easy to say unlucky when AK gets outdrawn by QJ, but if you don't put yourself in a position to lose you won't.

I really think lessons from a better player to clear up trouble spots like this would really help.

[BrianSwa]

I think there really good at analizing players bets and actions to know a general idea what they have then do the math to see if there a big dog or if they got a really good advantage of beating the hand they think they most likley have. As much as I hate phil hellmuth he is very very good at this. Sorry got alot of run-on sentences there trying trying to play this torney.

[jdiana86]

As depressing as it sounds, I believe that you are either born good at cards, or born bad at cards. Of course, if you are "born bad", if you play long and hard enough to improve your game, I'm sure many people have broken through and become winning players. Having good instincts is probably one of the most imporant qualities of a winning player though.

In response to your question would you pay to learn from a pro or take lessons from a pro...Yes. This is also possible by either going to the proffesor's fantasy poker camp, and also pokerschool.com is probable a good way to learn the "proper" techinques. I also read somewhere that they are going to be making poker boot camps to turn people into good players.