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Old 12-17-06, 01:08 PM
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Never min reraise preflop
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Old 12-17-06, 01:20 PM
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I knew there would be at least one!

You don't think I WANT action in this spot and hope he catches a piece of it?
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Old 12-17-06, 02:01 PM
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He wins 3255 each time he outflops you (say 1 out of 8) bc you wont get off Aces

He loses 280 each time he does not because he check folds (7 out of 8)

280 x 7 = 1960 which is signifcantly less than 3255

Opponent would be a fool to fold any two cards and your raise was incorrect
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Old 12-17-06, 02:19 PM
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If you are going to slowplay, just smooth call. Min raising is retarded in this spot since it gives up the strength of your hand (since I find it unlikely that you are min reraising often) while also not pricing out anything.
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Actually, in this EXACT spot people will think the min re-raise is a re-steal and many times come back over the top all-in. He could have done that, it would have been better (not knowing my hand) for him to do that than simply call with 2-7.

Could also be argued that stealing with 2-7 that early in a tournament is foolish.

Play of the hands aside, this was in fact a horrible beat, I had AA and he had no business in the hand, that would be the definition of a bad beat.

You would think on the forum that there was no such thing as a bad beat however, raguardless of the play of the hands someone will blame your play.
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you have to reraise more, IMO also
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Sarcasm?
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Actually, I disagree. He was a pretty big favorite when the money went in. Had you sucked out, then he could say it was a bad beat, yes, but the best hand (by a lot) holding up is certainly not the definition of a bad beat.

Call it a bad flop for you, sure, but there was no bad beat here. You put all your money in as a big dog. Tough beat, sure... but not a bad beat.
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fuck it i quit this game.

1st - sunday $215 warm up on stars. Out first hand to some river donk with 88. all in with over pair to the board, i had him nailed. fucker.

2nd - 14 x rebuy sattys to the mil. i counted this after losing 5 in a row, lost 56 races, won 5. cashed 0 times for a seat. got knocked out of 8/14 with the best hand preflop, other 6 were a race.

3rd - $100 buyin on FT satty. 18 enter, 4 paid, i lose in 5th with AA vs A6.

4th - $150 SnG satty to the $500k on FT. i lose with Aks vs A7s after i hit a king he runner runners a flush. that was after ebing a 3-1 table leader after knocking out 2 guys early.

5th - $2/$4 NL. down 3 buyins, 1 with AA vs KQs (wtf). 1 with KK vs AA vs QQ (i had KK , QQ won). 1 with 2 pair on flop all in vs flush draw and new top pair on turn, he riveres trips.

6th - $150 buyin tourney. lost with AKs vs AK os. he 4 flushed.



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Old 12-17-06, 05:51 PM
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Like Boobie said, sarcasm?

I mean seriously, this shows pretty much no understanding of poker.

And this is why u think ur the unluckiest person ever. No one else thinks this is a bad beat at all. You played this hand extremely weak and bad.

I can't beleive you think it's a bad beat when you get 680 of your stack in when your ahead, and 3,225 in when you are WAY behind.
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Old 12-17-06, 06:28 PM
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And how many of you get off AA in that spot, EVER?


All I can wish for is that you all catch a run of luck like myself and Bdawg have had.


Perhaps, maybe then, you would understand.

Otherwise, plz ban me.
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Old 12-17-06, 09:03 PM
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The thing you need to remember is that the good players reading this wouldn't have gotten themselves in that spot... EVER.
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Old 12-17-06, 10:08 PM
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Precisely the reason that opponent would be wrong to fold any two cards to your reraise. In the longrun he wins 3255 1 out of 8 times and loses 280 7 out of 8 times for a net profit of 3255 - 1960 = 1295 chips.

Yes , in the longrun opponent wins 1295 chips and you lose 1295 chips

No I wouldn't have gotten off aces in this spot, but like TP already said, I would have never been in this spot because when I reraised I would have bumped it up to 1200. If he calls and outflops me, he gets the rest of my stack in all likelihood, but at least Im making him make a mistake, rather than making the mistake myself
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nice.
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Sounds to me like you got exactly what you wanted then, right?

Yes, you were way ahead preflop, but you wanted him to come along and he did. If he outflops you, that's the price you pay for all but begging him to.

I've gone over this with bdawg like 100 times. If you WANT 72s to call your baby raise preflop when you have AA, and he DOES, then you got exactly what you wanted and lose all rights to complain when you then decided to give him the rest of your stack for some reason.
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