Poker is easy!! (pokertracker content)

johnp158 · #1 08-09-05, 07:47 PM

Well, I got back in the country from a month in Ecuador at the very beginning of July. I played some 1/2 limit and basically broke even after 3 weeks, with the help of some bonuses. Well, I was getting tired of what was either a fairly bad run of cards or bad limit play, so I decided to mix it up and start playing some $50 NL on Stars and Party.

So, I've played 6,006 hands at this limit and am up $592.78 (actually I think I've leaving out about $40 that I won on another computer and don't have in pokertracker). That's 9.87 BB/100 hands. I love poker! I've had 359 pocket pairs, and am now officially in the black with every one. To me that really says something about NL cash games. Even crazier? You know how people bitch about big hands getting cracked, etc? My top 4 moneymaking hands are AA, KK, QQ, JJ.

So anyway, this wasn't just a bragging post, I really wanted to have a thread about pokertracker. First, for you NL people, what's a sustainable BB/100 in NL?

And finally, I'd like some input on my stats so far from those of you who have experience with this. I know 6000 hands is a small sample, but it's what I have to go on right now.

VPIP: 13.80
PF raise: 5.83
Att to steal blinds: 20.42
VPIP from SB: 38.83
Aggression factor: Flop - 4.44
Turn - 2.75
River - 2.03
Total - 3.33
Check-raise: .35 (wow that seems super-low; I play pretty straightforward and usually bet out with my big hands, and do some smooth-calling with monsters).
Won % at showdown - 50.48

Umm, should I be looking at other stuff?

So any input would be great, I'd love to compare with some of you winning NL players.

JP

PShabi · #2 08-09-05, 07:57 PM

From what I understand, BB/100 is strictly a "LHE" stat. I don't know if it's relevant in the NLHE game.

Anyone else?

Nice run, btw.

johnp158 · #3 08-09-05, 08:20 PM

I've definitely heard that, but what other way is there to measure long-term NL results? Should you just be looking more at other PT stats and specific situations and how much money you are making/losing with TPTK, suited connectors, etc?

Aequitas58 · #4 08-09-05, 08:32 PM

Like Shabi said, nice run.

NLHE + BB/100: You're not really playing to win big bets in NL, so the BB/100 isn't really a useful stat, IMO.

It looks like your VP$IP is low. Also, what's your WSD%?

johnp158 · #5 08-09-05, 09:00 PM

So what were your stats when you were playing NL, Lou? And how did you measure your success? Just looking at money won and looking for leaks?
What kind of VPIP should I be shooting for?

Aequitas58 · #6 08-09-05, 09:19 PM

Win % At Showdown and Went to Showdown % are two different stats. The latter is more important, by far.

I'm not going to tell you what your VP$IP should be, but I think you want to be in the 17-22% ballpark. Don't be afraid to play those suited connectors in LP w/ 3/4+ limpers. Don't be afraid to call small raises w/ your pocket pairs.

Measuring success in NL is much tougher than in limit, IMO. Implied odds can be complicated because you really DON'T know how much you will get paid off if you hit. It's hard not to be results oriented, but when playing NL, that's the most common mistake of most players - including yours truly.

johnp158 · #7 08-09-05, 09:27 PM

Gotcha.

WSD% = 19.74

And I'm definitely doing those things. Maybe the sample size is too small, but it seems like i'm not getting many of those chances with suited connectors in LP. I'm definitely calling raises with any pocket pair. I'm always more than happy to call a 4xBB raise with a low pocket pair when the guy has me covered, or close to it.